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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2014, 07:50:15 AM »

Our punter was the game MVP. 7 of 8 punts inside the 20 with no touchbacks.

Which turned out to be huge since we couldn't get out of our own way on 3rd down.
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2014, 07:55:34 AM »

Our punter was the game MVP. 7 of 8 punts inside the 20 with no touchbacks.



In all the many aspects of the kicking game, such as kick-offs, kick-off returns, kick-off return coverage, FG kicking, punt returns, punt return coverage, etc., the punter is the one shining star of an otherwise pathetic outfit. By the way, fire Bobby Williams. He's so incompetent he can't even substitute properly after a TIMEOUT. A really solid special teams coach, ain't he?


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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2014, 08:10:07 AM »

Our punter was the game MVP. 7 of 8 punts inside the 20 with no touchbacks.



In all the many aspects of the kicking game, such as kick-offs, kick-off returns, kick-off return coverage, FG kicking, punt returns, punt return coverage, etc., the punter is the one shining star of an otherwise pathetic outfit. By the way, fire Bobby Williams. He's so incompetent he can't even substitute properly after a TIMEOUT. A really solid special teams coach, ain't he?


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We missed a short field goal and could not field a punt or even get out of the way of a bad punt. I put this blame on the players making dumb decisions. No way they were coached this way.

We had several bright spots on special teams. Punting was excellent. Arky had 0 punt return yds. We kicked off 3 times with one touchback. The two that were returned went for 15 and 8 yds which is good coverage. We blocked the extra point that ended up being huge. The short FG they missed looked to me like it would have been blocked if it was not shanked.
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2014, 08:48:51 AM »

Our punter was the game MVP. 7 of 8 punts inside the 20 with no touchbacks.



In all the many aspects of the kicking game, such as kick-offs, kick-off returns, kick-off return coverage, FG kicking, punt returns, punt return coverage, etc., the punter is the one shining star of an otherwise pathetic outfit. By the way, fire Bobby Williams. He's so incompetent he can't even substitute properly after a TIMEOUT. A really solid special teams coach, ain't he?


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We missed a short field goal and could not field a punt or even get out of the way of a bad punt. I put this blame on the players making dumb decisions. No way they were coached this way.

We had several bright spots on special teams. Punting was excellent. Arky had 0 punt return yds. We kicked off 3 times with one touchback. The two that were returned went for 15 and 8 yds which is good coverage. We blocked the extra point that ended up being huge. The short FG they missed looked to me like it would have been blocked if it was not shanked.



Disagree on a couple of things. First, giving up 15 yards on a punt is NOT good. If you do that as an average, you will probably lead the NCAA in punt returns or be high in the rankings. Second, the quality of our special teams have been average to poor the last 6-7 years & who has been the special teams coach in that same time frame? It's not a coincidence.


 
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2014, 08:59:23 AM »

Our punter was the game MVP. 7 of 8 punts inside the 20 with no touchbacks.



In all the many aspects of the kicking game, such as kick-offs, kick-off returns, kick-off return coverage, FG kicking, punt returns, punt return coverage, etc., the punter is the one shining star of an otherwise pathetic outfit. By the way, fire Bobby Williams. He's so incompetent he can't even substitute properly after a TIMEOUT. A really solid special teams coach, ain't he?


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We missed a short field goal and could not field a punt or even get out of the way of a bad punt. I put this blame on the players making dumb decisions. No way they were coached this way.

We had several bright spots on special teams. Punting was excellent. Arky had 0 punt return yds. We kicked off 3 times with one touchback. The two that were returned went for 15 and 8 yds which is good coverage. We blocked the extra point that ended up being huge. The short FG they missed looked to me like it would have been blocked if it was not shanked.



Disagree on a couple of things. First, giving up 15 yards on a punt is NOT good. If you do that as an average, you will probably lead the NCAA in punt returns or be high in the rankings. Second, the quality of our special teams have been average to poor the last 6-7 years & who has ben the special teams coach in that same time frame? It's not a coincidence.


 

You need to re-read my post. Arky had 0 punt return yds. We kicked off three times. One was a touchback and the two other two were returned 15 and 8 yds. Neither kickoff return got past the 20 yd line. That is good coverage.

Our special teams need work but you can not blame the coach when a All-SEC kick returner makes stupid decisions. The missed FG was kicked solid he just pulled it. These mistakes are on the players IMO.

I can not argue that week in and week out we have special team issues. At some point you have to look at the coaches.
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2014, 09:03:42 AM »

things that make you go hummmm ...

how come the NFL has about twice as many coaches for half as many players ?
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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2014, 09:22:01 AM »

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You need to re-read my post. Arky had 0 punt return yds. We kicked off three times. One was a touchback and the two other two were returned 15 and 8 yds. Neither kickoff return got past the 20 yd line. That is good coverage.

Our special teams need work but you can not blame the coach when a All-SEC kick returner makes stupid decisions. The missed FG was kicked solid he just pulled it. These mistakes are on the players IMO.

I can not argue that week in and week out we have special team issues. At some point you have to look at the coaches.

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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2014, 11:03:07 AM »

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You need to re-read my post. Arky had 0 punt return yds. We kicked off three times. One was a touchback and the two other two were returned 15 and 8 yds. Neither kickoff return got past the 20 yd line. That is good coverage.

Our special teams need work but you can not blame the coach when a All-SEC kick returner makes stupid decisions. The missed FG was kicked solid he just pulled it. These mistakes are on the players IMO.

I can not argue that week in and week out we have special team issues. At some point you have to look at the coaches.

I'm afraid this is a matter of point-of-view.
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Are you happy with the special teams play of the last 6-7 years? Should we sign Bobby Williams to a 5 year contract since he is so good as a special teams coach?


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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2014, 11:10:58 AM »

I am not going to put the blame on 1 coach. I will say this team appears to be lacking TEAM Chemistry and leadership! and some injuries
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« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2014, 12:30:59 PM »








Coach Saban is as happy as me about the special teams play.


 
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Coach Saban is as happy as me about the special teams play.


 

It almost looks like even the Line Judge knew what was going to happen after that one and was trying to shield M. Smith from the wrath of Coach Saban.
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« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2014, 05:03:13 PM »

Sad Bama quote from me--"dang, our punter is awesome"
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« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2014, 09:45:32 PM »

Every team has a peter call on punts.  It means find the ball and get away.  Also, the punt return man should be helping by pointing out where the ball is.  I want to say this about Christian Jones.  I wonder if his lack of play making on the offensive side of the ball may be a reason he is trying to do so much on special teams.  This does not excuse him from bad decision making.  I just wonder if mentally he feels he needs to do more.  Then when he makes one mistake he feels he has to correct it on the next opportunity.
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« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2014, 05:24:50 AM »

Every team has a peter call on punts.  It means find the ball and get away.  Also, the punt return man should be helping by pointing out where the ball is.  I want to say this about Christian Jones.  I wonder if his lack of play making on the offensive side of the ball may be a reason he is trying to do so much on special teams.  This does not excuse him from bad decision making.  I just wonder if mentally he feels he needs to do more.  Then when he makes one mistake he feels he has to correct it on the next opportunity.

Coach Saban was screaming at the punt receivers mostly, because they're supposed to make the 'peter call' (as hscoach said).  Specifically, CNS was screaming that the receiver is supposed to run to the ball while making the call, so the other players know where the ball is falling.  That's what he said on his interview Saturday night.  The receivers weren't helping the other players find the ball, because they were staying too far back while calling 'peter' (or whatever they call).

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