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Title: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night (UPDATE) Shooter in Custody
Post by: ALTideUp on July 17, 2012, 08:31:20 AM
By a lone gunman with a small cal automatic rifle.

Later I will give MD and WV a reason to re-bond. Because you know where i am going with this.


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: Jamos on July 17, 2012, 08:40:10 AM
This is the same area where Trent Richardson was almost shot last year.


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: pmull on July 17, 2012, 08:46:31 AM
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At least 17 people were injured in an early morning shooting at a bar in downtown Tuscaloosa.

A man entered Copper Top in Temerson Square near Fourth Street and 23rd Avenue around 1 a.m.  and fired into the bar, according to a witness.

Seventeen people were treated at DCH Regional Medical Center, which was put on lockdown after the shooting. Two people were in critical condition early this morning, according to a nursing supervisor at DCH Regional Medical Center.

http://blog.al.com/tuscaloosa/2012/07/at_least_17_injured_in_shootin.html


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: ricky023 on July 17, 2012, 09:38:22 AM
Evil people in this world today. Praying for the people and families. I know they need it. RTR!


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: SUPERCOACH on July 17, 2012, 09:43:13 AM
Here is a link to a live stream of the 10:00 AM police news conference:

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20120717/MULTIMEDIA/120719826/1007?Title=Live-stream-of-the-10-a-m-press-conference


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: Catch Prothro on July 17, 2012, 09:47:56 AM
By a lone gunman with a small cal automatic rifle.

Later I will give MD and WV a reason to re-bond. Because you know where i am going with this.
What?  If more people in the bar had guns, this wouldn't have happened...


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: McBaman on July 17, 2012, 11:09:42 AM
Meanwhile.... Here in Ocala yesterday, two thugs (one with a gun) walk into an internet cafe and attempt to rob the place.  A 71 year old guy sitting in the back with a concealed weapons permit shoots & wounds both of the thugs.

Here's a follow-up story:

http://www.ocala.com/article/20120716/ARTICLES/120719790?tc=cr


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: ALTideUp on July 17, 2012, 11:43:20 AM
Meanwhile.... Here in Ocala yesterday, two thugs (one with a gun) walk into an internet cafe and attempt to rob the place.  A 71 year old guy sitting in the back with a concealed weapons permit shoots & wounds both of the thugs.

Here's a follow-up story:

http://www.ocala.com/article/20120716/ARTICLES/120719790?tc=cr

I'm not a fan of guns, and I think what that guy did could have resulted in a net loss. But with that said, I hate armed criminals even more, and truly enjoyed watching that guy have at them. He crossed the line a little when he shot at them when they were out the door, but hey, if you are going to err on one side or the other......


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: Old Tider on July 17, 2012, 11:54:38 AM
By a lone gunman with a small cal automatic rifle.

Later I will give MD and WV a reason to re-bond. Because you know where i am going with this.
What?  If more people in the bar had guns, this wouldn't have happened...

Right, there would have been gunfire in all directions.


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 17, 2012, 11:59:57 AM
By a lone gunman with a small cal automatic rifle.

Later I will give MD and WV a reason to re-bond. Because you know where i am going with this.
What?  If more people in the bar had guns, this wouldn't have happened...

Right, there would have been gunfire in all directions.
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Wrong. Gunfire would have been fired at one direction, at the guy with the rifle, since I am not aware of too many people in bars with rifles. People are not stupid and can figure things out pretty fast.



Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: Old Tider on July 17, 2012, 12:18:31 PM
By a lone gunman with a small cal automatic rifle.

Later I will give MD and WV a reason to re-bond. Because you know where i am going with this.
What?  If more people in the bar had guns, this wouldn't have happened...

Right, there would have been gunfire in all directions.
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Wrong. Gunfire would have been fired at one direction, at the guy with the rifle, since I am not aware of too many people in bars with rifles. People are not stupid and can figure things out pretty fast.



Gunfire would come from one direction if the other people were line up like a firing squad. If people were scattered about the place and all had guns, the chance of bystander victims is high.


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: SUPERCOACH on July 17, 2012, 12:27:13 PM
By a lone gunman with a small cal automatic rifle.

Later I will give MD and WV a reason to re-bond. Because you know where i am going with this.
What?  If more people in the bar had guns, this wouldn't have happened...

Right, there would have been gunfire in all directions.
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Wrong. Gunfire would have been fired at one direction, at the guy with the rifle, since I am not aware of too many people in bars with rifles. People are not stupid and can figure things out pretty fast.



Gunfire would come from one direction if the other people were line up like a firing squad. If people were scattered about the place and all had guns, the chance of bystander victims is high.

Still probably would have been less than 17 innocent victims.  Maybe 3 or 4 and a thug with 17 holes in him.  :dunno:


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: Catch Prothro on July 17, 2012, 12:32:48 PM
By a lone gunman with a small cal automatic rifle.

Later I will give MD and WV a reason to re-bond. Because you know where i am going with this.
What?  If more people in the bar had guns, this wouldn't have happened...

Right, there would have been gunfire in all directions.
[/b]


Wrong. Gunfire would have been fired at one direction, at the guy with the rifle, since I am not aware of too many people in bars with rifles. People are not stupid and can figure things out pretty fast.



Gunfire would come from one direction if the other people were line up like a firing squad. If people were scattered about the place and all had guns, the chance of bystander victims is high.

Still probably would have been less than 17 innocent victims.  Maybe 3 or 4 and a thug with 17 holes in him.  :dunno:
Could be, although people drinking in bars with guns is a scary proposition.


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: SUPERCOACH on July 17, 2012, 12:43:58 PM
By a lone gunman with a small cal automatic rifle.

Later I will give MD and WV a reason to re-bond. Because you know where i am going with this.
What?  If more people in the bar had guns, this wouldn't have happened...

Right, there would have been gunfire in all directions.
[/b]


Wrong. Gunfire would have been fired at one direction, at the guy with the rifle, since I am not aware of too many people in bars with rifles. People are not stupid and can figure things out pretty fast.



Gunfire would come from one direction if the other people were line up like a firing squad. If people were scattered about the place and all had guns, the chance of bystander victims is high.

Still probably would have been less than 17 innocent victims.  Maybe 3 or 4 and a thug with 17 holes in him.  :dunno:
Could be, although people drinking in bars with guns is a scary proposition.

Indeed.


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: ALTideUp on July 17, 2012, 01:24:52 PM


Wrong. Gunfire would have been fired at one direction, at the guy with the rifle, since I am not aware of too many people in bars with rifles. People are not stupid and can figure things out pretty fast.


A dangerous minority of people are stupid. And few of the rest are that fast.

You propagate a fairytale, hollywood, picture of what happens when a bunch of amateurs start firing guns in crowded places. So no one is going to miss and hit one of the terrified people fleeing for their lives behind the perpetrator, or hit someone running through their line of site? Are any of them trained to simultaneously site their target while watching their peripheries? Do they even know to keep both eyes open?


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: pmull on July 17, 2012, 01:46:48 PM
The idiot shooter just turned himself in to a Jasper police officer. Jasper has turned him over to Tuscaloosa. They will put him away for a long time.


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: XBAMA on July 17, 2012, 02:02:58 PM
(http://wbma.images.worldnow.com/images/19045022_SS.jpg)


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: ALTideUp on July 17, 2012, 02:19:55 PM
Meanwhile.... Here in Ocala yesterday, two thugs (one with a gun) walk into an internet cafe and attempt to rob the place.  A 71 year old guy sitting in the back with a concealed weapons permit shoots & wounds both of the thugs.

Here's a follow-up story:

http://www.ocala.com/article/20120716/ARTICLES/120719790?tc=cr

But then watch this one.....

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=59c_1223571467 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=59c_1223571467)


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: SUPERCOACH on July 17, 2012, 03:05:32 PM
Meanwhile.... Here in Ocala yesterday, two thugs (one with a gun) walk into an internet cafe and attempt to rob the place.  A 71 year old guy sitting in the back with a concealed weapons permit shoots & wounds both of the thugs.

Here's a follow-up story:

http://www.ocala.com/article/20120716/ARTICLES/120719790?tc=cr

But then watch this one.....

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=59c_1223571467 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=59c_1223571467)

What kind of idiot let's a 2 year play with a real gun (even if he thinks it isn't loaded)?


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: ALTideUp on July 17, 2012, 03:10:47 PM
I really don't care what kind of idiot that is. I just care that idiots like this exist in large numbers and the NRA vehemently believes that it's a good idea for each and every one of them to have a gun, because it would make life safer for all of us.


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: SUPERCOACH on July 17, 2012, 03:27:46 PM
I don't own a gun (yet) and have no idea what is required to get one.  Guns should be for responsible folks like the 71 year old guy from Ocala and not the idiot who shot the 17 or the idiot in Syria that let his 2 year old play with it.

I have never felt the need to own a gun, but in recent years I have been thinking about getting one.  Especially every time I see one of these mass shooting stories.


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: ALTideUp on July 17, 2012, 03:43:25 PM
It's a thorny issue coach.

Let's just hope the last of the hospitalized recover, and then we can get back to FOOTBALL.



Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 17, 2012, 04:13:18 PM
I don't own a gun (yet) and have no idea what is required to get one.  Guns should be for responsible folks like the 71 year old guy from Ocala and not the idiot who shot the 17 or the idiot in Syria that let his 2 year old play with it.

I have never felt the need to own a gun, but in recent years I have been thinking about getting one.  Especially every time I see one of these mass shooting stories.


In Alabama, no felony convictions and $15 and you can get a concealed permit in 15 minutes. The permit is also good in Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee, and several other states.

 :dog:


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: BAMAWV on July 17, 2012, 04:27:45 PM
Most gun accidents don't happen in NRA homes. Crack heads and buffoons leaving guns laying around but the libs are quick to lump them all together. Everyone has a gun (or several) here, everyone carries a gun, but you never hear of an accident. Libs just hate the NRA and are willing to make statistics lie in order to move their agenda. BTW, I am not an NRA member but when these eggheads continuously attack them it must mean they (NRA) are pushing the right buttons.


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 17, 2012, 04:29:44 PM
(http://wbma.images.worldnow.com/images/19045022_SS.jpg)



Wow, what a loser. The only positive to this whole situation is he was probably using something like a Marlin .22 rifle. The model 100 holds like 15-17 rounds, allowing him to shoot a lot. If he was using a larger caliber rifle like a .223, .308, or .270, we would have had many dead. I hope all of these folks are going to be okay. Was this a college-age type of bar or a country music bar or what?


 ???


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 17, 2012, 04:35:02 PM
Well, so much for logic. Apparently, he did have an "assault" weapon.


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The suspect arrested Tuesday in the Tuscaloosa, Ala., bar shooting spree that left 17 people injured is also suspected of setting fire to his former workplace a few hours afterward, NBC station WVTM in Tuscaloosa reported.


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The News quoted Sgt. Brent Blankley, of the Tuscaloosa Police, as saying the shooting happened around 12:30 a.m. Tuesday at Copper Top bar. A gunman with a military-style assault rifle fired at least 11 shots into the bar in the city’s Temerson Square.

The shooter then fired at fleeing patrons.

Barfield told the paper the man said he had been at the bar high on drugs "and a few other things."

Tuscaloosa Police Chief Steven Anderson said at least one victim in the bar was the shooter’s target.


ALTideUp: How about you or a mod updating your thread title so we won't have two threads on this subject. This new info is interesting.


http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/17/12786746-suspect-in-alabama-shooting-spree-charged-with-attempted-murder?lite


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: Leewillie on July 17, 2012, 05:53:39 PM
Well, so much for logic. Apparently, he did have an "assault" weapon.


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The suspect arrested Tuesday in the Tuscaloosa, Ala., bar shooting spree that left 17 people injured is also suspected of setting fire to his former workplace a few hours afterward, NBC station WVTM in Tuscaloosa reported.


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The News quoted Sgt. Brent Blankley, of the Tuscaloosa Police, as saying the shooting happened around 12:30 a.m. Tuesday at Copper Top bar. A gunman with a military-style assault rifle fired at least 11 shots into the bar in the city’s Temerson Square.

The shooter then fired at fleeing patrons.

Barfield told the paper the man said he had been at the bar high on drugs "and a few other things."

Tuscaloosa Police Chief Steven Anderson said at least one victim in the bar was the shooter’s target.


ALTideUp: How about you or a mod updating your thread title so we won't have two threads on this subject. This new info is interesting.


http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/17/12786746-suspect-in-alabama-shooting-spree-charged-with-attempted-murder?lite

Many of the AR 15 assault rifles have a relatively inexpensive conversion kit which allows it to fire .22 cal. rounds.  Makes for much less expensive target shooting.  My son, a former combat Marine, has one of these.  Pretty neat.


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 17, 2012, 07:35:58 PM
Well, so much for logic. Apparently, he did have an "assault" weapon.


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The suspect arrested Tuesday in the Tuscaloosa, Ala., bar shooting spree that left 17 people injured is also suspected of setting fire to his former workplace a few hours afterward, NBC station WVTM in Tuscaloosa reported.


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The News quoted Sgt. Brent Blankley, of the Tuscaloosa Police, as saying the shooting happened around 12:30 a.m. Tuesday at Copper Top bar. A gunman with a military-style assault rifle fired at least 11 shots into the bar in the city’s Temerson Square.

The shooter then fired at fleeing patrons.

Barfield told the paper the man said he had been at the bar high on drugs "and a few other things."

Tuscaloosa Police Chief Steven Anderson said at least one victim in the bar was the shooter’s target.


ALTideUp: How about you or a mod updating your thread title so we won't have two threads on this subject. This new info is interesting.


http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/17/12786746-suspect-in-alabama-shooting-spree-charged-with-attempted-murder?lite

Many of the AR 15 assault rifles have a relatively inexpensive conversion kit which allows it to fire .22 cal. rounds.  Makes for much less expensive target shooting.  My son, a former combat Marine, has one of these.  Pretty neat.


Sheesh, you spend $1000-$1200 on an AR-15 and then change it to .22 cal. You can buy the Marlin model 100 for $120. It doesn't make any sense.

 ???


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night
Post by: Leewillie on July 18, 2012, 09:32:51 AM
Well, so much for logic. Apparently, he did have an "assault" weapon.


Quote
The suspect arrested Tuesday in the Tuscaloosa, Ala., bar shooting spree that left 17 people injured is also suspected of setting fire to his former workplace a few hours afterward, NBC station WVTM in Tuscaloosa reported.


Quote
The News quoted Sgt. Brent Blankley, of the Tuscaloosa Police, as saying the shooting happened around 12:30 a.m. Tuesday at Copper Top bar. A gunman with a military-style assault rifle fired at least 11 shots into the bar in the city’s Temerson Square.

The shooter then fired at fleeing patrons.

Barfield told the paper the man said he had been at the bar high on drugs "and a few other things."

Tuscaloosa Police Chief Steven Anderson said at least one victim in the bar was the shooter’s target.


ALTideUp: How about you or a mod updating your thread title so we won't have two threads on this subject. This new info is interesting.


http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/17/12786746-suspect-in-alabama-shooting-spree-charged-with-attempted-murder?lite

Many of the AR 15 assault rifles have a relatively inexpensive conversion kit which allows it to fire .22 cal. rounds.  Makes for much less expensive target shooting.  My son, a former combat Marine, has one of these.  Pretty neat.


Sheesh, you spend $1000-$1200 on an AR-15 and then change it to .22 cal. You can buy the Marlin model 100 for $120. It doesn't make any sense.

 ???
Not trying to justify it, just trying to explain that it is possible that the shooter has an assault type rifle which was small caliber.  They are petty common now days on the gun ranges where I shoot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwMZVQ4ZgtE&feature=related


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night (UPDATE) Shooter in Custody
Post by: BAMAWV on July 18, 2012, 11:17:51 AM
Haven't seen a ballistics report but .22  cal ammunition should not be dismissed as harmless or less dangerous. While the velocity is not sufficient for long distances, the bullet will tend to tumble upon impact. This destroys more tissue than a shot going straight through a target. Not sure what a test would show at point blank range.


Title: Re: 17 People Shot at Temerson Sq Last Night (UPDATE) Shooter in Custody
Post by: ricky023 on July 18, 2012, 04:26:34 PM
What about an AK-47, has anybody here ever heard one of those up close and personal? They will make you proud you have an M-16. Keep the NRA alive and as WV said I ain't no member of NRA but they have kept our freedom of the constitution to bare arms. RTR!