Jameis Winston (updated; DNA matches JW!!)

[2Stater]

Here's the deal, CP, you asked how the DNA can be attained from JW, if he is not willing to provide it. DNA is like garbage put on the street. It is fair game for anyone when it leaves your property. If he spits, anyone can gather his spit to extract DNA, or gum he was chewing. Once the findings become public, then all doubt will be removed.

[Catch Prothro]

Here's the deal, CP, you asked how the DNA can be attained from JW, if he is not willing to provide it. DNA is like garbage put on the street. It is fair game for anyone when it leaves your property. If he spits, anyone can gather his spit to extract DNA, or gum he was chewing. Once the findings become public, then all doubt will be removed.

I worked on a civil suit years ago where we paid an investigator to pick up someone's garbage and sort through it.  DNA would seem more involved than picking up garbage, in terms of identification, chain of custody, etc.  But I hear what you are saying.

I still don't think they have a DNA match at this time.

[2Stater]

Here's the deal, CP, you asked how the DNA can be attained from JW, if he is not willing to provide it. DNA is like garbage put on the street. It is fair game for anyone when it leaves your property. If he spits, anyone can gather his spit to extract DNA, or gum he was chewing. Once the findings become public, then all doubt will be removed.

I worked on a civil suit years ago where we paid an investigator to pick up someone's garbage and sort through it.  DNA would seem more involved than picking up garbage, in terms of identification, chain of custody, etc.  But I hear what you are saying.

I still don't think they have a DNA match at this time.

I agree with you, he played awfully well today to be to be distracted. I would be surprised if DNA matched.

And as far as chain of custody goes, you are correct. But video evidence is acceptable also. If he smokes a cigarette and throws it out, or gum, or spit, and you have him on video discarding said evidence, it is viable. They will either make their case with that or discard it.

[XBAMA]

wonder where page 3 of the police report is  Click here for link
not that it matters 

[ALTideUp]

So, I just read the latest mumbo jumbo on the Winston alleged sexual assault story. There are apparently a set of procedures and policies relating the open/closed, and active/inactive, status of cases to the availability of the case reports to the public.

Apparently an open/inactive case report can be accessed by the public on request. An open/active case cannot. So, coincidentally, just as the media get wind of the case, some new bit of evidence arises to cause the case to be reclassified as open/active. In other words, just as the press begin sniffing around the case is conveniently recategorized in such a way that it is no longer open to media requests or public scrutiny. There is no indication whatsoever of the nature of this new evidence, where it came from etc.

The stinky smell emanating from Tallahassee is not dissipating.

[pmull]

The quote below is from the Tampa Bay Times. the girl's attorney said she was threaten and the TPD tried to bury the case. 

After the woman — a Florida State student from the Tampa Bay area — identified Winston as the suspect in early January, "the family grew concerned that she would be targeted on campus" and requested assistance from an attorney friend, according to the statement.

"When the attorney contacted Detective (Scott) Angulo immediately after Winston was identified, Detective Angulo told the attorney that Tallahassee was a big football town and the victim needs to think long and hard before proceeding against him because she will be raked over the coals and her life will be made miserable," the family said.

The family also said that Angulo refused to collect Winston's DNA or interview his roommate, a possible witness in the case, because doing so would alert Winston and allow the case to go public.

A public record request by the Times revealed no search warrants executed under Winston's name. And there are no public search warrants related to sex crimes that match the address of the building Winston reportedly lives in. In addition, the public record request did not reveal that any search warrants have been executed in relation to the case since Nov. 11. There is no way to know if there are search warrants that have been carried out but are confidential at this time.

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[Catch Prothro]

ESPN/Mark Schlabach reporting DNA match between JW and semen obtained from accuser's underwear.

Click here for link

[ALTideUp]

Sadly for the girls, the next move after the DNA match is to portray the victim as a drunken whore who instigated the whole thing and is now trying to profit off of Winston's fame. Count on it.

[Catch Prothro]

A DNA analysis completed by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement on Tuesday confirmed that DNA provided by Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston matched the sample taken from the underwear of a woman who has accused him of sexual battery. 

The DNA match alone does not prove that Winston, a leading Heisman Trophy candidate, sexually assaulted the woman....

Meggs told ESPN.com on Wednesday that he probably will not take the case before a grand jury, saying his office would ultimately decide whether it believes it has sufficient evidence to charge Winston with a crime.

"I'm not stupid," Meggs said. "It is a young man whose life is in a fish bowl right now. I think about that. There's also a young girl whose life has been turned upside down and her life will never be the same, either. We look at it and say, 'Which one of those is most important?' Both. It is a search for the truth and the truth is kind of elusive sometimes." 

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[ALTideUp]

Dang, CP. That story is only 4 minutes old. You are on it like a bonnet.

[Catch Prothro]

Sadly for the girls, the next move after the DNA match is to portray the victim as a drunken whore who instigated the whole thing and is now trying to profit off of Winston's fame. Count on it.

Except she raised the accusation before she identified the accused, and before he was famous.  But yeah, alcohol was involved.

[Catch Prothro]

Dang, CP. That story is only 4 minutes old. You are on it like a bonnet.

I was watching the N. Illinois Toledo game, and this was "breaking news" on ESPN2 soon after the game.

I bet I beat Wall-E on this one.   

[ALTideUp]

Sadly for the girls, the next move after the DNA match is to portray the victim as a drunken whore who instigated the whole thing and is now trying to profit off of Winston's fame. Count on it.

Except she raised the accusation before she identified the accused, and before he was famous.  But yeah, alcohol was involved.

The seminal nation is already pushing this version of things. 46 posts and counting lionizing Winston for "banging a broad" who is now trying to "cash in". Any poster critical of Winston or predicting that this will end badly is getting beaten on like a rented mule.

[Catch Prothro]

Sadly for the girls, the next move after the DNA match is to portray the victim as a drunken whore who instigated the whole thing and is now trying to profit off of Winston's fame. Count on it.

Except she raised the accusation before she identified the accused, and before he was famous.  But yeah, alcohol was involved.

The seminal nation is already pushing this version of things. 46 posts and counting lionizing Winston for "banging a broad" who is now trying to "cash in". Any poster critical of Winston or predicting that this will end badly is getting beaten on like a rented mule.

It will be hard to obtain a conviction in Tallahassee if it's a "he said she said" case.  The accuser's lawyer talks about JW's roommate as a potential witness, who could take it out of that category.

[ALTideUp]

wonder where page 3 of the police report is  Click here for link
not that it matters 

The reporting office is Clayton Fallis. Are you shipping me?!? We have officer Fallis investigating a charge of rape against a Florida State Seminal?

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