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« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2011, 12:10:06 PM »

I think the issue of whether or not he was an orange eater has been settled now, with coaches from both schools saying that he really didn't contribute to the teams success this year:

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That player has been described as a part-time player who rotated along with several others at his position. Clay-Chalkville coach Jerry Hood said at Friday’s appeal that the player in question made no difference in the team’s success.
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« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2011, 12:17:23 PM »

After reading that article, I think CCHS does have a case, and a pretty good one at that:

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The motion contends that the purpose of an AH-SAA rule requiring advance online publication of the team roster is to provide opposing schools with the opportunity to raise questions or objections to an opposing player’s participation.

It states that posting requirement also places an equitable obligation on opposing schools to check the roster and to promptly call any attention regarding a player’s eligibility to the AHSAA.

The opposing school (Huffman) did not turn them in until after they lost to CCHS.  The coach didn't turn them in either, it was the new principal at Huffman who wasn't even the principal when the student was expelled last year.

Posting the roster like that is to prevent exactly this situation.  A team has an ineligible player, but nobody says anything until after the game, and only if they lose.  The reason they don't say anything before the game is because he would be removed from the team.  They want him to play though, so if they lose they can get the game forfeited.  Because of the rule about posting the roster before the game I think CCHS has a pretty good case here actually.  They should not have to forfeit any games where they posted the roster beforehand and did not receive any objections, especially when people at Huffman new he was ineligible and didn't say anything until after they lost.
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« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2011, 12:33:08 PM »

CCHS makes a good case for themselves. I read the court papers earlier today and they may win. The AHSAA response is even though a roster is published it is not the other schools responsibility to do background checks on your players. It is the schools responsibility to check the record from the last AHSAA school to make sure the players record is clear.

I read where the lady judge said she would make a ruling no later than Friday. This could really screw up the playoffs for 6A teams. They will have to delay 1st round games. Our team is preparing to play Vestavia at home. That preparation will not do us much good if we end up playing Hoover instead.

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« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2011, 12:39:47 PM »

Reads to me that based on the letter of the "law," that CCHS is guilty.  However, the circumstances are not cut in dry, and I think it should also be considered that the kid wasn't a star athlete so obviously CCHS had nothing to gain.  That alone proves that there was no intent.  It'd be a shame to punish the rest of the team after such a fantastic season.

I could see it going either way though.
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« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2011, 12:55:47 PM »

Seems as though high school football can be as dirty as college football.
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« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2011, 01:08:11 PM »

CCHS makes a good case for themselves. I read the court papers earlier today and they may win. The AHSAA response is even though a roster is published it is not the other schools responsibility to do background checks on your players. It is the schools responsibility to check the record from the last AHSAA school to make sure the players record is clear.

I read where the lady judge said she would make a ruling no later than Friday. This could really screw up the playoffs for 6A teams. They will have to delay 1st round games. Our team is preparing to play Vestavia at home. That preparation will not do us much good if we end up playing Hoover instead.



If I were the coach of one of these teams I would plan on playing whoever is scheduled for this Friday.  If anything happens that changes the schedule, I would expect the new game to be delayed until the next Friday.  That would be the only fair thing for them to do, although that doesn't necessarily mean it will happen.  But as the coach you really don't have a whole lot of options other than to get ready for the team you are scheduled to play right now.
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« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2011, 01:09:37 PM »

Reads to me that based on the letter of the "law," that CCHS is guilty.  However, the circumstances are not cut in dry, and I think it should also be considered that the kid wasn't a star athlete so obviously CCHS had nothing to gain.  That alone proves that there was no intent.  It'd be a shame to punish the rest of the team after such a fantastic season.

I could see it going either way though.

I can see it going either way too.  I've flip-flopped half a dozen times in this thread.
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« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2011, 01:25:37 PM »

I believe the judge will deny the motion. As a member of the AHSAA CCHS agrees to operate within the rules and regulations (by-laws) of the AHSAA. The AHSAA make a ruling based on their understanding of their own by-laws. If CCHS does not agree with the ruling the by-laws allow for an appeal. CCHS asked for and receive an appeal. The appeal was denied. The by-laws do not offer any other options. The AHSAA decision is the final authority.
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« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2011, 03:16:41 PM »

Fox 6 news just reported that the Judge has ruled there must be a hearing on the injunction, did not say when it will be.
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