Clay-Chalkville to file legal injunction to delay football playoffs

[pmull]

I would love to know what actually happened. Huffman is a bottom feeder that had no chance of making the playoffs. They were 1-9 on the field and 0-7 in the region. I can't help but think CCHS is not clean in this. They have been accused of recruiting players in the past. I would not be surprised if it was Hewitt-Trussville who turned them in. HTHS and CCHS hate each other.

[BAMAWV]

Sorry. Just thought this thread could use a horse.

[BAMAWV]

I would love to know what actually happened. Huffman is a bottom feeder that had no chance of making the playoffs. They were 1-9 on the field and 0-7 in the region. I can't help but think CCHS is not clean in this. They have been accused of recruiting players in the past. I would not be surprised if it was Hewitt-Trussville who turned them in. HTHS and CCHS hate each other.

It is so transparent when they do that. A kid moves to live with his uncles best friend or Dad moves across town to make it an extra hour to get to work.

[ricky023]

I have not understood all this from the front end. If these guys are recruiting, what is wrong with getting players to come to school and play for them. It's been going on since I was in High School. I look forward to hearing what the courts have to say. RTR!

[SUPERCOACH]

I would love to know what actually happened. Huffman is a bottom feeder that had no chance of making the playoffs. They were 1-9 on the field and 0-7 in the region. I can't help but think CCHS is not clean in this. They have been accused of recruiting players in the past. I would not be surprised if it was Hewitt-Trussville who turned them in. HTHS and CCHS hate each other.

It is so transparent when they do that. A kid moves to live with his uncles best friend or Dad moves across town to make it an extra hour to get to work.

Plus the guy is NOT an orange eater, which he is according to his old Huffman coach.  I would love to know if this part is true.

[ricky023]

What in the world does orange eater have to do with it SC? I ain't figured that out yet. Please alert me to what I am missing. RTR!

[Jamos]

I talked with a friend today that shed a little light on this issue for me. He told me the kid was expelled from Huffman and enrolled at another school and I forget the name of it. He came to Clay from the other school with a clean record but Huffman still had the goods on him for when he was there. I think he said there is a time frame, maybe a year, that the kid has a chance to clean his act up for his previous suspension or being expelled. I'm not sure the needed amount of time had passed for the kid to be clean.

What wasn't clear to me was when he came to Clay with the clean record did anyone bother to check behind him for any complications with elgibility. The part that botherss me most is why the Coach at Huffman didn't notify Clay of the kids previous problem at Huffman and why did they wait until the 10th game of the season to notify the AHSAA. Personally I think Huffman is guilty of a wrong doing as well by not notifying Clay of the kids background, especially the coach at Huffman.

I'm sure I haven't gotten all of this accurate but it's within the ballpark of what happened. Maybe somebody else can follow this up and find out a little more info.

[pmull]

The ineligible player was expelled from Huffman. He enrolled in Restoration Academy which to my understanding is a school for troubled kids in Fairfield. Restoration is not an AHSAA shool. AHSAA rules state that if a player leaves a member school in bad standing he can not play for another AHSAA member school. IMO any kid transfering in from Restoration Academy should be thoroughly checked out and CCHS did not do that.

Huffman does not appear to be clean here either. The Huffman coach was quoted last week as saying Huffman did not turn CCHS in. It was reported this afternoon that Huffman was the school to turn them in. My guess is the player is not an orange eater.

[pmull]

CCHS has filed the motion against AHSAA according to WBRC.

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[Jamos]

CCHS has filed the motion against AHSAA according to WBRC.

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With the kid lying when asked of his elgibility means a lot in this case. Seems like Bama had an instance like that once that got them put on probation, Antonio Langham. I think there should be some seriuos consideration when it is proven that the lying caused the problem for the school. I also believe that these schools that purposely get other schools in trouble should suffer the same consequence as the school they turned in. Another idea would be that the AHSSA would send out a list to all high school coaches of the players that have been declared inelgible from the whole state at the beginning of school each year.

[Coach Hank Crisp]

The AHSAA has been known for this kinda garbage for years.

Just look at all the schools that have are (3-7) or (4-6) in the playoffs. All the AHSAA had to do years ago was add a rule saying a team must have an overall record of .500 to get in playoffs. If there were not any schools that met this requirement then just don't represent that region.

I'm not sure a 5-5 record should get teams in playoffs.

Class 1A A.L. Johnson (4-5) at Pickens County (9-1), Reform Loachapoka (4-6) at Brantley (8-1) Keith (8-2) at Sweet Water (7-3) Kinston (3-7) at Winterboro (9-1) Notasulga (5-5) at Geneva County (5-5), Hartford McIntosh (5-5) at Maplesville (10-0) Pleasant Home (7-3) at Saint Jude (9-1), Montgomery Catholic HS Field Autaugaville (4-6) at Linden (9-1), Marengo HS, Dixons Mill Berry (9-1) at Addison (9-1) Gaylesville (3-7) at Ragland (10-0) Hackleburg (7-3) at Lynn (8-2) Appalachian (6-4) at Collinsville (9-1) Gaston (7-3) at Donoho (9-1), Anniston Hubbertville (7-3) at Shoals Christian (7-3), Florence Akron (6-4) at Cedar Bluff (5-5) R.A. Hubbard (7-3) at Marion County (9-1), Guin Class 2A Southern Choctaw (8-2) at Vincent (8-2) Houston Academy (5-4) at Elba (10-0) Billingsley (7-3) at Flomaton (9-1) Goshen (6-4) at G.W. Long (9-1), Skipperville Barbour County (7-3) at Zion Chapel (8-2), Jack Mobile Christian (5-5) at American Christian (9-1), Tuscaloosa Highland Home (7-3) at Providence Christian (7-3), Dothan Isabella (6-4) at Leroy (6-4) Woodland (6-4) at Colbert Heights (8-2) Sumiton Christian (6-4) at Fyffe (10-0) Lexington (5-5) at Reeltown (7-3) Sand Rock (6-4) at Tanner (10-0) Fultondale (8-2) at North Sand Mountain (9-1), Higdon LaFayette (7-3) at Red Bay (9-1) Ider (7-3) at Oakman (7-3) Lamar County (6-4) at Lineville (7-3) Class 3A Washington County (8-2) at Aliceville (5-5) Walter Wellborn (7-3) at Opp (6-4) Greensboro (5-5) at T.R. Miller (8-2), Brewton Slocomb (8-2) at Handley (10-0), Roanoke Leeds (8-2) at Abbeville (8-2) Trinity Presbyterian (6-4) at Gordo (7-3) Luverne (7-3) at Clay County (9-1), Ashland Montevallo (4-5) at Bayside Academy (10-0), Daphne Cordova (6-4) at Sheffield (8-2), Tuscumbia Geraldine (5-5) at Piedmont (10-0) Rogers (8-2) at Hamilton (8-2) Saks (6-3) at Sardis (9-1) Sylvania (8-2) at Glencoe (8-2) Holly Pond (5-5) at Lauderdale County (9-1), Rogersville Weaver (7-3) at Madison Academy (8-2), Madison Elkmont (6-4) at Hanceville (10-0) Class 4A UMS-Wright (6-4) at Greene County (7-3), Eutaw Elmore County (6-4) at Andalusia (10-0) West Blocton (7-3) at Thomasville (9-1) Straughn (6-4) at Dadeville (10-0) Lincoln (6-4) at Saint James (8-2), Montgomery Saraland (6-4) at Bibb County (10-0), Centreville Headland (6-4) at Beauregard (9-1) Sumter Central (4-6) at Jackson (10-0) Dora (8-2) at Brooks (8-2), Killen Cherokee County (5-5) at Anniston (6-4) Central-Florence (7-3) at Fayette County (7-3), Fayette Cleburne County (5-5) at North Jackson (10-0), Stevenson Fairview (7-3) at Alexandria (7-3) Corner (6-4) at Deshler (9-1), Tuscumbia Oneonta (8-2) at Guntersville (8-2) West Limestone (5-5) at Midfield (6-4) Class 5A Spanish Fort (7-3) at Fairfield (9-1) Brookwood (4-6) at Valley (8-2) McAdory (6-4) at Vigor (8-2), Prichard Tallassee (4-6) at Greenville (10-0) Paul Bryant (6-4) at Eufaula (9-1) LeFlore (3-7) at Hueytown (10-0) Charles Henderson (5-5) at Demopolis (6-4) Woodlawn (7-3) at Saint Paul's (9-1), Mobile Pinson Valley (8-2) at East Limestone (7-3) Boaz (5-5) at Hartselle (10-0) Russellville (5-5) at Center Point (9-1) Curry (5-5) at Etowah (9-1) Albertville (7-3) at Cullman (7-3) Chelsea (7-3) at Muscle Shoals (9-1) Walker (6-4) at Fort Payne (9-1) Athens (4-6) at Briarwood Christian (9-1) Class 6A Murphy (6-4) at Carver-Montgomery (7-3) Dothan (6-4) at McGill-Toolen (9-1), Lipscomb Complex, Mobile Benjamin Russell (6-4) at Davidson (7-3), at Baker HS, Mobile Foley (7-3) at Central-Phenix City (8-2) Opelika (7-2) at Daphne (9-1) Alma Bryant (3-7) at Prattville (7-2) Fairhope (8-2) at Auburn (8-1) Jeff Davis (6-4) at Blount (9-1), Eight Mile Minor (7-3) at Huntsville (7-3), Milton Frank Stadium Gadsden City (6-4) at Mountain Brook (10-0) Hazel Green (7-3) at Northridge (9-1), Tuscaloosa Spain Park (5-5) at Oxford (9-1) Hewitt-Trussville (8-2) at Hoover (9-1) Tuscaloosa County (5-5) at Bob Jones (9-1), Madison Vestavia Hills (6-4) at Austin (7-3), Shorty Ogle Stadium, Decatur Decatur (5-5) at Hillcrest-Tuscaloosa (10-0)

[pmull]

The way the playoffs are set up so 50% of the teams make the playoffs. It is hard for all teams to have a winning record when one half of the field is included. I like this playoff format. Eight teams in your region and the top four make the playoffs.

[SUPERCOACH]

What in the world does orange eater have to do with it SC? I ain't figured that out yet. Please alert me to what I am missing. RTR!

It is a story hscoach told us.  An orange eater is a player that doesn't really contribute anything to the team, but he comes in the locker room at half time and eats all the oranges they put out for snacks.

[pmull]

CCHS has filed a motion to overturn the AHSAA ruling forcing them to forfeit 9 games. The AHSAA has also filed a motion to dismiss the CCHS motion.

From everything I read both CCHS and Huffman need to get their act together. Huffman should have notified the AHSAA long before they did. Huffman claims they did not know he was playing for CCHS until they saw him on the field in the 9th game of the season.

The kid was expelled from Huffman for having 7 bags of marijuana on the Huffman campus. That was third quarter last school year. He was expelled for 12 months. He enrolled at Restoration Academy to finish the school year. He transfered to CCHS this year. The school reviewed the records from Restoration Academy which included Huffman transcripts but did not include any information regarding his being expelled while at Huffman.

The kid is not eligible to play this year at any AHSAA school. CCHS claims they checked his last school and his record was clear. The AHSAA says CCHS is required to check the last AHSAA school the kid attended to make sure his record is clear. The kid has been dismissed from the CCHS team even if they are allowed to play. The kid lied to CCHS about his past.

This could go either way. I'm back to my original question. Does a judge has jurisdiction to overturn an AHSAA ruling? 

The link below is the most recent information I could find. It is an AL.com article.

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[SUPERCOACH]

The judge has jurisdiction over the potential lawsuit that could follow, and injunctions are to limit damages in that potential lawsuit before it is too late.  I don't think CCHS has a case though, if they are indeed responsible for checking with the last AHSAA school.

I saw something that indicated that the judge would hear both sides today and rule on the injunction.  If he approves the injunction, that only means he is delaying the playoffs so that they have more time to figure out what is the right course of action.  It doesn't necessarily mean that he will ultimately side with CCHS.  If he denies the injunction then he is siding with AHSAA and it is over.

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