Jameis Winston (updated; DNA matches JW!!)

[Chechem]

A DNA analysis completed by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement on Tuesday confirmed that DNA provided by Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston matched the sample taken from the underwear of the woman who has accused him of sexual battery....

Folks, all of this chatter about 'he said - she said' is moot.

Next step: JW will be interviewed by police;
Then: Charges will be filed;

With that, FSU will be obliged to suspend JW.  It's what Florida universities do.  They will turn their backs and let the courts handle it (which will take months).  This ain't LSU!

[bamaphil]

A DNA analysis completed by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement on Tuesday confirmed that DNA provided by Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston matched the sample taken from the underwear of the woman who has accused him of sexual battery....

Folks, all of this chatter about 'he said - she said' is moot.

Next step: JW will be interviewed by police;
Then: Charges will be filed;

With that, FSU will be obliged to suspend JW.  It's what Florida universities do.  They will turn their backs and let the courts handle it (which will take months).  This ain't LSU!

I'm not sure.  This whole case is rotten.  Due to the high profile nature of the case I have a hard time believing charges will be filed unless there is rock solid evidence that it was a sexual assault, which I think in this case would require at least one credible witness who can testify that it was not consensual. 

Still to early to tell what's going to happen.

I do think Winston will have a hard time winning the Heisman now as he's just a freshman and there are so many questions.  I'd have a hard time voting for him.

[Jamos]

I'm very interested in seeing charges filed against all that are involved in trying to cover up this case, there are some that should lose their jobs. I'm hoping that everything that has happened in this case is opened up and made public, if the young lady is willing to do this then the TPD and FSU should be as well.

Athletes have had the luxury of skating free of crimes in the past because of their popularity in the sports world, when will this ever improve.

[Catch Prothro]

A DNA analysis completed by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement on Tuesday confirmed that DNA provided by Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston matched the sample taken from the underwear of the woman who has accused him of sexual battery....

Folks, all of this chatter about 'he said - she said' is moot.

Next step: JW will be interviewed by police;
Then: Charges will be filed;

With that, FSU will be obliged to suspend JW.  It's what Florida universities do.  They will turn their backs and let the courts handle it (which will take months).  This ain't LSU!

I'm not sure.  This whole case is rotten.  Due to the high profile nature of the case I have a hard time believing charges will be filed unless there is rock solid evidence that it was a sexual assault, which I think in this case would require at least one credible witness who can testify that it was not consensual. 

Still to early to tell what's going to happen.

I do think Winston will have a hard time winning the Heisman now as he's just a freshman and there are so many questions.  I'd have a hard time voting for him.

Heisman is out the window.  ESPN analysts were fawning all over him earlier in the season, talking about what a great guy he was, his character, to me he seemed somewhat phony, forced. 

From the officer quotes, it isn't clear if charges will be filed, or when they will be filed.  Is there physical evidence of force?  Witness corroboration?  It is too high profile of a case, and a loser in Tallahassee, without corroborating evidence. 

I agree that FSU will back off and let the cops and courts do their jobs.  They know it's time to fish or cut bait.

[2Stater]

I posted before that if the DNA matched, he is toast. Instead of him coming out and arguing that it was consensual sex, whether it was or not, he came out with an alibi, according to one report that I saw. It is now too late for the consensual sex argument.

In light of these circumstances, you can now rest assure that there was nothing consensual about it.

Looks like we'll be playing them with whoever their 3rd string, read option QB is.

[ALTideUp]

Several things auger in the direction of an arrest. First, there is at least the appearance that Winston was given special treatment by local police. With DNA evidence in hand, for the AG to not charge him would take on the appearance of a broader conspiracy to shelter Winston and the team's NC aspirations. I don"t see that happening.

Second, as some have said, when the original accusations were made Winston was not a big deal, she made the accusation immediately (not after regret set in), and she may not have even realized that he was a big deal athlete.

Third, there have been some reports that mention photos taken at the scene. If there is photographic/medical evidence of physical force, it will be hard not to make an arrest.

In fairness to the Tallahassee police, the alleged threat that they made by telling the victim that things will be hard on her if she goes forward with the case may not have been a threat at all. It is probably an accurate prediction, and may have been said to help her make an informed choice. That reality sucks, but the cops may simply have been the messengers. But together with the delays, failure interview or swab Winston, etc. it rounds out a picture of the TPD as serving and protecting FSU.

[McBaman]

A couple of questions for you guys to comment on...

[1] In a high profile case like this, what will be State's Att'ys threshold for deciding to file charges? i.e. wouldn't he need evidence to be strong and have a good probability of winning a conviction ?     

[2] Do you think Leon County SA will make the decision or will it go up to the FL AG?

Just hard for me to believe charges will be filed without a very, very strong case.

[bamaphil]

A couple of questions for you guys to comment on...

[1] In a high profile case like this, what will be State's Att'ys threshold for deciding to file charges? i.e. wouldn't he need evidence to be strong and have a good probability of winning a conviction ?     

[2] Do you think Leon County SA will make the decision or will it go up to the FL AG?

Just hard for me to believe charges will be filed without a very, very strong case.

1) I think they would need a virtually guaranteed conviction before pressing charges.  Irrefutable evidence.
2) No idea.

I agree that charges are unlikely unless there's a very, very strong case that it was not consensual.

[Peewee from Grand Bay]

I'm very interested in seeing charges filed against all that are involved in trying to cover up this case, there are some that should lose their jobs. I'm hoping that everything that has happened in this case is opened up and made public, if the young lady is willing to do this then the TPD and FSU should be as well.

Athletes have had the luxury of skating free of crimes in the past because of their popularity in the sports world, when will this ever improve.

This is going to get very very messy for all involved. Looks as there may have been an attempt to sweep this under the rug by threatening the witness. if this is true their will be be charges brought up against the detective and maybe other as well. With the DNA match and more coming from the victims family every day as to  how this was handled by the TPD. The bottom line is this is a very sad situation for all involved!  

[ALTideUp]

A couple of questions for you guys to comment on...

[1] In a high profile case like this, what will be State's Att'ys threshold for deciding to file charges? i.e. wouldn't he need evidence to be strong and have a good probability of winning a conviction ?     

[2] Do you think Leon County SA will make the decision or will it go up to the FL AG?

Just hard for me to believe charges will be filed without a very, very strong case.

If state's attorney Megg's wanted to wash his hands of this he could have called a grand jury to decide on an indictment. This would almost certainly have resulted in no charges, as everyone in tallahassee wants FSU to win the NC. The fact that he elected not to do this to me signals his determination to make an arrest.

[Chechem]

A couple of questions for you guys to comment on...

[1] In a high profile case like this, what will be State's Att'ys threshold for deciding to file charges? i.e. wouldn't he need evidence to be strong and have a good probability of winning a conviction ?     

[2] Do you think Leon County SA will make the decision or will it go up to the FL AG?

Just hard for me to believe charges will be filed without a very, very strong case.

If state's attorney Megg's wanted to wash his hands of this he could have called a grand jury to decide on an indictment. This would almost certainly have resulted in no charges, as everyone in tallahassee wants FSU to win the NC. The fact that he elected not to do this to me signals his determination to make an arrest.

This situation is about a week from becoming a Civil Rights case.  People all over the country are watching to see if this young woman is/was mistreated by the system (not to mention JW).  One way or the other, JW will face charges (either at state level or during a federal case).

Apparently JW's roommate was present during the sex.  If he took photos/video (as suggested) and destroyed them, then he'll be charged too.  That'll make him talk, and he'll likely tell all then.

Lots will happen very soon.  Pressure from outside the state is building.  The FBI is next...

 

[bama57]

A DNA analysis completed by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement on Tuesday confirmed that DNA provided by Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston matched the sample taken from the underwear of the woman who has accused him of sexual battery....

Folks, all of this chatter about 'he said - she said' is moot.

Next step: JW will be interviewed by police;
Then: Charges will be filed;

With that, FSU will be obliged to suspend JW.  It's what Florida universities do.  They will turn their backs and let the courts handle it (which will take months).  This ain't LSU!

How long will it take FSU to suspend him?

[Marshal Dillon]

Don't be shocked if the charges are suddenly dropped if he is arrested. I will bet money some big time FSU boosters are talking about offering her a cash settlement to go away. Something like $300,000 area. Then FSU can act like nothing happened and talk about how we need to move forward. This whole thing is going to get sleazier, you watch. "Fans" are capable is anything.



 

[Chechem]

A DNA analysis completed by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement on Tuesday confirmed that DNA provided by Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston matched the sample taken from the underwear of the woman who has accused him of sexual battery....

Folks, all of this chatter about 'he said - she said' is moot.

Next step: JW will be interviewed by police;
Then: Charges will be filed;

With that, FSU will be obliged to suspend JW.  It's what Florida universities do.  They will turn their backs and let the courts handle it (which will take months).  This ain't LSU!

How long will it take FSU to suspend him?

Same day.  Florida state regulations stipulate an automatic suspension for a player charged with a felony.

[bama57]

A DNA analysis completed by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement on Tuesday confirmed that DNA provided by Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston matched the sample taken from the underwear of the woman who has accused him of sexual battery....

Folks, all of this chatter about 'he said - she said' is moot.

Next step: JW will be interviewed by police;
Then: Charges will be filed;

With that, FSU will be obliged to suspend JW.  It's what Florida universities do.  They will turn their backs and let the courts handle it (which will take months).  This ain't LSU!

How long will it take FSU to suspend him?

Same day.  Florida state regulations stipulate an automatic suspension for a player charged with a felony.

If he is guilty, I just find it dumbfounding that such a gifted individual would do something so stupid!

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