Jameis Winston (updated; DNA matches JW!!)

[2Stater]

If she does not withdraw the charges, they have no choice but to arrest him. Then, it is on the DA to make the case. He can let a grand jury decide. This could end up being a criminal case and a civil case if she wants to pursue it.

At any rate, this does not look good for Winston. For that matter it doesn't look good for the TPD or anyone else that was involved in what could have been a possible cover-up.

[Marshal Dillon]

If she does not withdraw the charges, they have no choice but to arrest him. Then, it is on the DA to make the case. He can let a grand jury decide. This could end up being a criminal case and a civil case if she wants to pursue it.

At any rate, this does not look good for Winston. For that matter it doesn't look good for the TPD or anyone else that was involved in what could have been a possible cover-up.

I have to think that the FDLE (Florida Department of Law Enforcement aka state police) have taken over the investigation of this case. The Tallahassee police are too compromised on this one.

[pmull]

The link below contains the unedited "Family Statement".

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[ALTideUp]

Don't be shocked if the charges are suddenly dropped if he is arrested. I will bet money some big time FSU boosters are talking about offering her a cash settlement to go away. Something like $300,000 area. Then FSU can act like nothing happened and talk about how we need to move forward. This whole thing is going to get sleazier, you watch. "Fans" are capable is anything.



 

This may have worked before the specter of police misconduct was raised, but now that it has there is no getting the genie back in the bottle. This is going to become a shi7 storm of epic proportions.

[Marshal Dillon]

Like I just said, it will only get sleazier from here on out. Tallahassee PD has some real explaining to do. Expect to hear more self-serving, CYA excuses from the Chief of Police. I would like to add something else. I lived in Tallahassee in the mid 1980's. The newspaper, The Tallahassee Democrat, is very liberal and the town in general considers itself to be somewhat toney and upscale. It is a mix families, young people (students since FSU and Florida A&M are both there) and it's a political town since it is the state capital. This makes for a fascinating mix of people. I have to believe a good part of the city is tearing itself up over this situation with all the conflicting interests involved.



 

[2Stater]

The link below contains the unedited "Family Statement".

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Wow! The lid is fixing to blow off of Tallahassee. Good find, pmull.

[Marshal Dillon]

Winston attorney now claiming sex was consensual. I knew that was coming after all the other revelations.

Tim Jansen, a Tallahassee attorney representing Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston in a sexual-assault complaint against him, said in a news conference Thursday morning that sex between his client and the complainant was consensual.

When asked whether the sex was consensual, Jansen replied, "absolutely."

Jansen added that he anticipated his client's DNA would match the DNA found on the complainant./quote]


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[SUPERCOACH]

I posted before that if the DNA matched, he is toast. Instead of him coming out and arguing that it was consensual sex, whether it was or not, he came out with an alibi, according to one report that I saw. It is now too late for the consensual sex argument.

In light of these circumstances, you can now rest assure that there was nothing consensual about it.

Looks like we'll be playing them with whoever their 3rd string, read option QB is.

They will have to get past Duke first. 

It may be tOSU. 

[ricky023]

There is a can of worms going here. I think the sidelines would be a good place to be in this trail that is bound to be MESS. RTR!

[Marshal Dillon]

I posted before that if the DNA matched, he is toast. Instead of him coming out and arguing that it was consensual sex, whether it was or not, he came out with an alibi, according to one report that I saw. It is now too late for the consensual sex argument.

In light of these circumstances, you can now rest assure that there was nothing consensual about it.

Looks like we'll be playing them with whoever their 3rd string, read option QB is.

They will have to get past Duke first. 



It may be tOSU. 

Something which has been overlooked is how some reports said she was intoxicated, which is false. Someone is trying to set this girl up to look like a drunken slut who "allowed" sex with Winston. This is a typical defense strategy employed by sleazy attorneys. Sleazier & sleazier.


 

[SUPERCOACH]

The link below contains the unedited "Family Statement".

Click here for link

WOW!  They are in big trouble.

[ALTideUp]

The narrative developing on the FSU boards is that one of the witnesses was the victim's female roommate, who claims that the sex was consensual. There is also a claim that the relationship between JW and the victim was ongoing, that the victim was angered when JW told her to stay away during the time his official girlfriend was visiting campus. Enraged, she called the police to report rape but rethought it. That, according to this narrative, is why JW wasn't identified and why the height and weight were misreported. The narrative continues by explaining the new aggressive approach by the girl's family has been forced by the media exposure. She is now in a position where she has to either push the original charge of rape or admit she made a false report.

Don't kill the messenger. I am just summarizing what the FSU nation is spinning.

[SUPERCOACH]

That doesn't make sense.  She reported the rape because she was mad at him, but then deliberately lied about the height, weight, etc., along with the fact that she knew who it was and was in a relationship with him.  Why would she report it and cover it up at the SAME time in the same report?  I also agree with the point 2 and others made about denying it ever happened, and then switching the story to consensual AFTER they find out about the DNA evidence.

Wishful thinking on their part.

[ALTideUp]

That doesn't make sense.  She reported the rape because she was mad at him, but then deliberately lied about the height, weight, etc., along with the fact that she knew who it was and was in a relationship with him.  Why would she report it and cover it up at the SAME time in the same report?  I also agree with the point 2 and others made about denying it ever happened, and then switching the story to consensual AFTER they find out about the DNA evidence.

Wishful thinking on their part.

The claim, which is plausible, is that she literally changed her mind as the police were in route, and when they arrived, the openly way she could manage the situation is to offer a description that turned the focus away from JW.

I don't know that JW even said that nothing ever happened. I thought he wasn't interviewed by police and that he has made no comments about the case. Anyway, it's a tawdry mess whatever particular version of the story turns out to be true.

[Marshal Dillon]

That doesn't make sense.  She reported the rape because she was mad at him, but then deliberately lied about the height, weight, etc., along with the fact that she knew who it was and was in a relationship with him.  Why would she report it and cover it up at the SAME time in the same report?  I also agree with the point 2 and others made about denying it ever happened, and then switching the story to consensual AFTER they find out about the DNA evidence.

Wishful thinking on their part.

The claim, which is plausible, is that she literally changed her mind as the police were in route, and when they arrived, the openly way she could manage the situation is to offer a description that turned the focus away from JW.

I don't know that JW even said that nothing ever happened. I thought he wasn't interviewed by police and that he has made no comments about the case. Anyway, it's a tawdry mess whatever particular version of the story turns out to be true.

I agree, the idea of her being mad and then reporting him has happened in the past. however, we are 11 months after the fact and she has hired an attorney and they are pursuing this with energy. Remember, I think it was reported that she did not even know him before this encounter. When they took pictures, did she have any bruises on her body, arms, legs, anywhere? Plus, Winston refused to cooperate wit the police at first, so what was that all about, building a story for the police? Very confusing situation, which sex crimes sometimes become.

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