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Title: A Question of Depth Post by: crtuneman on September 03, 2012, 07:49:06 AM After watching that absolutely stupendous beatdown Saturday night, I got to wondering about something: Do we have isues with depth? About the 3rd quarter I started realizing something: We had only played a handful of players on defense. In the secondary, Dee and Deion played corner all night. We finally saw Geno SMith and John Fulton in thhe 4th when the game was over. And at safety, the same 4 guys played all night: Lester, Vinnie, HaHa, and Nick Perry. Didn't see Landon Collins at all. At LB we saw Trey, Nico, CJ, Adrian, and Dickson. I don't think I saw Tana Patrick all night. Some subs came in in the 4th. The DL substitued liberally, esp when JW went out. We seem to have good depth on the DL, but at LB and in the secondary, the same guys played most of the night. DOes Saban not trust the young guys? Did he just feel that they weren't ready for this opener? I wondered if the reason Mich was able to make some plys in the 2nd half was because our D was so tired. What do you guys think?
On a related note, I am disappointed in John Fulton. I remember when he was recruited, he was a huge get. He was a 5-star out of Va, and the 2nd best corner in the country. I thought when we got him, Dee, and Dre, that our secondary would be set for years. He needs to step up this year and prove his 5-star ranking. If he doesn't see much PT this year he might be looking at the bust label. Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: Chechem on September 03, 2012, 07:52:18 AM So many questions before my 2nd cup of coffee.
1. The guys who played all night needed the experience. Somebody else try answering the others... Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: BAMAWV on September 03, 2012, 07:52:36 AM After watching that absolutely stupendous beatdown Saturday night, I got to wondering about something: Do we have isues with depth? About the 3rd quarter I started realizing something: We had only played a handful of players on defense. In the secondary, Dee and Deion played corner all night. We finally saw Geno SMith and John Fulton in thhe 4th when the game was over. And at safety, the same 4 guys played all night: Lester, Vinnie, HaHa, and Nick Perry. Didn't see Landon Collins at all. At LB we saw Trey, Nico, CJ, Adrian, and Dickson. I don't think I saw Tana Patrick all night. Some subs came in in the 4th. The DL substitued liberally, esp when JW went out. We seem to have good depth on the DL, but at LB and in the secondary, the same guys played most of the night. DOes Saban not trust the young guys? Did he just feel that they weren't ready for this opener? I wondered if the reason Mich was able to make some plys in the 2nd half was because our D was so tired. What do you guys think? Maybe CNS saw visions of the 2010 IB. I've learned my lesson.On a related note, I am disappointed in John Fulton. I remember when he was recruited, he was a huge get. He was a 5-star out of Va, and the 2nd best corner in the country. I thought when we got him, Dee, and Dre, that our secondary would be set for years. He needs to step up this year and prove his 5-star ranking. If he doesn't see much PT this year he might be looking at the bust label. Aside from being a great recruiting tool, playing a formidable opponent in the opener gives CNS an opportunity to assess his team in a real setting. What he is able to gather will establish the basis for the practices from now until Arky. It is hard to tell who may quit if you only play them for a half. HTH Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: Jamos on September 03, 2012, 08:02:01 AM By now everyone knows that you should never question CNS about who plays and who doesn't play. If you don't know what I mean, just attend one of his meetings or press conferences and listen to him when he is asked this question. If you are worried about the depth of the team, well you shouldn't, there is depth everywhere except at QB. ;)
Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: Chechem on September 03, 2012, 08:15:29 AM By now everyone knows that you should never question CNS about who plays and who doesn't play. If you don't know what I mean, just attend one of his meetings or press conferences and listen to him when he is asked this question. If you are worried about the depth of the team, well you shouldn't, there is depth everywhere except at QB. Jamos, next chance you get ask him about depth at QB for us. :-*Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: BAMAWV on September 03, 2012, 08:18:41 AM By now everyone knows that you should never question CNS about who plays and who doesn't play. If you don't know what I mean, just attend one of his meetings or press conferences and listen to him when he is asked this question. If you are worried about the depth of the team, well you shouldn't, there is depth everywhere except at QB. ;) LOL. Don't be scared of CNS, Jamos. He is not very big and I think you can whoop him. Mess up his hair and you'll own him. HTHTitle: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: rueben on September 03, 2012, 08:22:12 AM By now everyone knows that you should never question CNS about who plays and who doesn't play. If you don't know what I mean, just attend one of his meetings or press conferences and listen to him when he is asked this question. If you are worried about the depth of the team, well you shouldn't, there is depth everywhere except at QB. ;) LOL. Don't be scared of CNS, Jamos. He is not very big and I think you can whoop him. Mess up his hair and you'll own him. HTHAnd when you do this, jump around him yelling, "I muss yo harrr, I muss you harr!!!" Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: BAMAWV on September 03, 2012, 08:23:16 AM By now everyone knows that you should never question CNS about who plays and who doesn't play. If you don't know what I mean, just attend one of his meetings or press conferences and listen to him when he is asked this question. If you are worried about the depth of the team, well you shouldn't, there is depth everywhere except at QB. Jamos, next chance you get ask him about depth at QB for us. :-*Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: Jamos on September 03, 2012, 08:25:55 AM By now everyone knows that you should never question CNS about who plays and who doesn't play. If you don't know what I mean, just attend one of his meetings or press conferences and listen to him when he is asked this question. If you are worried about the depth of the team, well you shouldn't, there is depth everywhere except at QB. Jamos, next chance you get ask him about depth at QB for us. :-*LOL!! Not me but I can assure you someone will and the show is on. :lol: Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: Jamos on September 03, 2012, 08:32:42 AM By now everyone knows that you should never question CNS about who plays and who doesn't play. If you don't know what I mean, just attend one of his meetings or press conferences and listen to him when he is asked this question. If you are worried about the depth of the team, well you shouldn't, there is depth everywhere except at QB. Jamos, next chance you get ask him about depth at QB for us. :-*Exactly, him and Morris. When you can practice against a top defense everyday it doesn't take long to become better at your position. I think Ely could come in and handle the job reasonably well now but the deep pass may suffer some. Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: Chechem on September 03, 2012, 08:44:04 AM Funny. Coach Saban was just on The Zone answering questions. I kept waiting for the meltdown, but he was pretty calm. Must be a stack of Little Debbie cakes on the podium.
Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: BAMAWV on September 03, 2012, 08:53:16 AM By now everyone knows that you should never question CNS about who plays and who doesn't play. If you don't know what I mean, just attend one of his meetings or press conferences and listen to him when he is asked this question. If you are worried about the depth of the team, well you shouldn't, there is depth everywhere except at QB. Jamos, next chance you get ask him about depth at QB for us. :-*Exactly, him and Morris. When you can practice against a top defense everyday it doesn't take long to become better at your position. I think Ely could come in and handle the job reasonably well now but the deep pass may suffer some. Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: hscoach on September 03, 2012, 09:37:06 AM Ask Saban has the depth chart changed in the running back position, or is it still by committee? :D
Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: BAMAWV on September 03, 2012, 09:53:09 AM Ask Saban has the depth chart changed in the running back position, or is it still by committee? :D #+ :lol:Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 03, 2012, 09:54:57 AM So many questions before my 2nd cup of coffee. 1. The guys who played all night needed the experience. Somebody else try answering the others... ^^^THIS^^^ We need to get some experience back there before we head into SEC play, especially Arkansas. Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: crtuneman on September 03, 2012, 10:40:30 AM I id see Saban's PC, and he addressed this. He basically said we have great depth at every position except OL and the secondary. I have a feeling every one will get to play against WKU, but I hope we have some depth when we go to Fayettville, because Tyler Wilson is far better than Denard Robinson, and he will test our secondary early and often.
Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: hscoach on September 03, 2012, 10:45:34 AM I id see Saban's PC, and he addressed this. He basically said we have great depth at every position except OL and the secondary. I have a feeling every one will get to play against WKU, but I hope we have some depth when we go to Fayettville, because Tyler Wilson is far better than Denard Robinson, and he will test our secondary early and often. He is a better passer, but doesn't have the mobility. I expect there to be a better pass rush with more blitzes. Also, didn't he get put out of last years game? Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 03, 2012, 10:59:41 AM I id see Saban's PC, and he addressed this. He basically said we have great depth at every position except OL and the secondary. I have a feeling every one will get to play against WKU, but I hope we have some depth when we go to Fayettville, because Tyler Wilson is far better than Denard Robinson, and he will test our secondary early and often. He is a better passer, but doesn't have the mobility. I expect there to be a better pass rush with more blitzes. Also, didn't he get put out of last years game? He took a beating last year, but he kept getting right back up. I was impressed with him. He is one tough kid. If I remember correctly, they did take him out toward the end of the game but that was because they were conceding the loss and trying to keep him from getting hurt. I don't think he left because of injury. Also they have Knile Davis back this year, so they may be hard to handle on that side of the ball. Fortunately they probably still are allergic to playing defense so we should be able to score at will. Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: BAMAWV on September 03, 2012, 11:18:56 AM I id see Saban's PC, and he addressed this. He basically said we have great depth at every position except OL and the secondary. I have a feeling every one will get to play against WKU, but I hope we have some depth when we go to Fayettville, because Tyler Wilson is far better than Denard Robinson, and he will test our secondary early and often. He is a better passer, but doesn't have the mobility. I expect there to be a better pass rush with more blitzes. Also, didn't he get put out of last years game? He took a beating last year, but he kept getting right back up. I was impressed with him. He is one tough kid. If I remember correctly, they did take him out toward the end of the game but that was because they were conceding the loss and trying to keep him from getting hurt. I don't think he left because of injury. Also they have Knile Davis back this year, so they may be hard to handle on that side of the ball. Fortunately they probably still are allergic to playing defense so we should be able to score at will. Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 03, 2012, 11:56:01 AM Yep, and I figure our O might be just a tad better than JSU.
Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: Bamaphile on September 03, 2012, 11:57:16 AM Quote Fortunately they probably still are allergic to playing defense so we should be able to score at will. Quote They gave up 24 to Jacksonville St.. All scoring by JSU was against the 1s except maybe the 3rd qtr. FG. All of this. It seems that for the past several years their pattern has been to play a couple of cream puffs to start the year while everybody goes on and on about how good their offense is. Their first true test is us, and we all know how that's been working for them. Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: hscoach on September 03, 2012, 08:20:35 PM Thinking about depth I went quickly thru the game agian to see what players were on the field. I could not get them all, but here is what I came up with. I know there is a list of who played, but I wanted to see who was working in with the first group.
Offense: RB: 42-EL; 4-TJY; 45-JF; 1-DH TE/HB: 89-MW; 31-KJ; 84-BV; 45-JF REC: 2-DW; 7-KB; 9-AC; 22-CJ; 83-KN QB: 10-AJM OL: 61-AS; 65-CW; 71-CK; 75-BJ; 76-DJF; 78-CL O that closed out the game: QB: 12-PE RB-HB: 21BC OL: 63-KW; 78-CL; 77-AK; 70-RK; 79 AS Rec: 81-DW TE: 82-HJ Defense: OB/DL: 54-JW; 49-ES; 90-QD; 92-DS; 42-AH; 57-DJP; 62-BI; 47-XD; 8-JP; 30-DD late, but with some of first group LB: 32-CJM; 35 NJ; 33-TD SEC: 3-VS; 6-HHD; 13-DB; 27-NP; 28-DM; 37-RL D that closed out the game: 11-TP; 24-GS; 26-LC; 16-BS; 30-DD; 44-LF; 57-DJP; ????5-CB; 10-JF Special teams:Not going to put all initials includes punts, punt return, kick off/return, FG/Xtra point; a lot of starters on here: 5; 22; 43; 51; 6; 28; 27; 92; 29;32; 10; 4; 45; 33; 2; 11; 18; 7; 31; 90; 76; 24; 35; 71; 25; 83; 49; 89; 19 Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: Jamos on September 03, 2012, 08:50:12 PM I id see Saban's PC, and he addressed this. He basically said we have great depth at every position except OL and the secondary. I have a feeling every one will get to play against WKU, but I hope we have some depth when we go to Fayettville, because Tyler Wilson is far better than Denard Robinson, and he will test our secondary early and often. How soon some of us forget. One of Bama's toughest games last year was to Georgia Southern with Bama winning 45-21. No one expected a game near that tough from them but it did happen. This is why coaches play one game at a time and Western kentucky is next and you never know what might happen until the game starts. Hopefully you are right though and everyone that dresses out gets some time on the field. ;) Title: Re: A Question of Depth Post by: crtuneman on September 03, 2012, 09:56:49 PM I id see Saban's PC, and he addressed this. He basically said we have great depth at every position except OL and the secondary. I have a feeling every one will get to play against WKU, but I hope we have some depth when we go to Fayettville, because Tyler Wilson is far better than Denard Robinson, and he will test our secondary early and often. How soon some of us forget. One of Bama's toughest games last year was to Georgia Southern with Bama winning 45-21. No one expected a game near that tough from them but it did happen. This is why coaches play one game at a time and Western kentucky is next and you never know what might happen until the game starts. Hopefully you are right though and everyone that dresses out gets some time on the field. ;) Please don't tell Coach Saban I took WKU lightly. He might make me run puke sprints. :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: |