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http://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/college/ole-miss/2017/02/22/ole-miss-receives-noa-ncaa-investigation-complete/98265962/


Ole Miss issuing a self imposed bowl ban for 2017. The NCAA of old would laugh in their face. Will be interesting to see what they do now.

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And how does the AD still have a job?





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Are you hearing anything about it, Chech?

Boy this sounds serious all except the part about they separated the girls stuff from football. RTR!

Here's the ESPN story with a little more insight...

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18743461/ole-miss-rebels-self-impose-1-year-postseason-ban-2017


MD has a point about "how does the AD still have a job."  He probably won't have one much longer.

But now, it has to be asked:  Where is the Univ President and the B of T's??  If they weren't into this already, they gotta get in now.

Indeed, more detail.

And their two wins over Bama will almost certainly be vacated.

Talk about slapping themselves on the wrist. Expect a loss of 20-25 scholarships over 3 years, not four. The NCAA will be mad about their arrogance about 11 scholly's over 4 years.




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A bit.  Most Ole Miss folks weren't surprised by the loss of post-season games (which was offered as a 'self-imposed penalty), but are disappointed in the wording "lack of institutional control".  They maintain that these were isolated, not widespread violations.  They also point at Louisville's sex scandal with recruits and ask, 'why didn't they get similar penalties?'.

A buddy told me they expected more from the Tunsil issues, which apparently involved a messy family dispute and a lot of people who refused to provide information.  There isn't much new beyond what was known 2 years ago.

As per the firing of the AD, as I recall he wasn't hired until after much of this took place.  The Chancellor who was in charge during the violations retired several years ago, and his replacement only stayed about a year.

I wonder how Freeze still has his job.  None of the charges point to him directly, but ... he was the Head Coach, and he was the one who denied any wrongdoing (on national media).  Previously everyone tried to put the blame on Houston Nutt.

Ole Miss is appealing the "lack of control" charge.  They'll lose that prolly.

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:nuttlol:

Had to do it.

This is more of the horrid publicity that Ole Miss can expect. How long can the AD, President, & Freeze hold on? Freeze makes $5 mil a year! Chancellor been there since 2015 & has appeared weak in this mess, AD there since 2012.






http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/the-ncaa-is-coming-hard-for-hugh-freeze/ar-AAnezvr?li=BBnb7Kz



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This sounds like it is going to get worse and sadder for the OM fans. I am glad we have a coach who will recruit and play the game by the rules because it almost killed us when we went through the years of penalties. RTR!

I learned the specifics this morning.  Several local businesses involved, as well as several local citizens.

Looks like I retired just in time!   :lol2:

Now this sounds like a terrible thing that locals did some wrong am I hearing this right Chechem? RTR!

Ole Miss didn't list names of people or businesses in their public news release.  But I talked with the folks who knew.  It will be interesting to see how Ole Miss punishes them, if at all.

The Ole Miss administration is pointing fingers at their predecessors, which indeed is generally true.  But the lack of control and the failure of Head Coach to maintain control cannot be dismissed. 

Word is Freeze told his coaches (a while back) to 'lawyer up'.  And, to his credit, he's not blaming anyone for the blame placed on him and his position.  He's big-time upset.

"Lawyering up" doesn't work in Administrative matters, only criminal situations. They can be charged by the NCAA with failure to cooperate in an investigation.


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It sounds like a big ax is about to fall. Man I hate to see it but cheating has never worked and never will. RTR!

This is what happens when you switch your mascot from Col. Reb to a black bear. Bad things, man, bad things.

Good info & point of view. Read link.









https://olemiss.rivals.com/news/mccready-nuance-perspective-required-to-forecast-freeze-s-future




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we KNOW what it feels like to be on the BAD end of a witch hunt! We survived and overcame, Fat Phil's journey didn't end so well'

I definitely don't call this a witch hunt of Ole Miss. Larry Tunsil admitted asking for money at the NFL Draft on live TV. Plus, they supposedly have a tape of coach discussing payments and statements from 2 previous recruits.


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I read yesterday where other schools are starting to recruit Ole Miss players expecting many of them to transfer.

Uh oh, I hadn't heard that but it's to be expected. I will look for a site which we can post here.

This is a very good article by SB Nation regarding the Ole Miss situation. They discuss:

1. Allegations and findings regarding Laremy Tunsil.
2. Ole Miss standing by Hugh Freeze.
3. The worst possible scenario for Ole Miss - If the proposed one year bowl ban is rejected and a two year bowl ban is enforced Ole Miss players will be able to transfer without sitting out a year. Rival schools are already evaluating the Ole Miss roster for transfer possibilities.
4. Will Ole Miss retaliate and turn in other SEC schools.
 

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/2/23/14706356/ole-miss-ncaa-allegations-hugh-freeze

I'm afraid that Ole Mis fans & some alumni will demand that the university fight to the bloody end and take everyone they can down with them. I think this way because they were out of the football limelight for 45-50 years and suddenly reemerged into its bright glow. They now think this an effort by their "enemies" like Misses State, maybe Auburn & other teams, the SEC, and the NCAA to put them down for their success. Teams are jealous (in their mind) of this sudden success and respect they had earned by "out-recruiting" everyone else since we all know how much these players loved Ole Miss and really wanted to go there for school. Basically, they are feeling "picked on" and conspired against by the world.

Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail, especially by the university President and the Governor who will probably be behind the scenes talking. Trying to cause chaos and huge problems for other schools in and out of the SEC will buy nothing for Ole Miss but eternal animus from across the region, the SEC Office, the NCAA, and most everyone else.



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I became highly suspicious of them when Robert Nsdklvdcjkdiche chose to go there.

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As did we all. Chech was the only person in the state of Mississippi that knew how to pronounce and spell his name.

Not just Nkemdiche, the #1 prospect in the country from Georgia, but 5* Tunsil out of Florida, 5* Laquon Treadwell out of Illinois, and others. You telling me a kid from Illinois who could go ANYWHERE picked Ole Miss. Give me a break.



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What? There was nothing at all suspicious about an unproven head coach arriving at a perennial SEC doormat and suddenly winning recruiting battles against Bama, OSU, and other top-tier programs.

Well we all know that if the ncaa gets behind this they ain't gonna leave until buys them off. RTR!

It figures, blown out of proportion by Ole Miss to threaten other schools and take the heat off themselves.





http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/03/source_ole_miss_tape_related_t.html



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So Ole Miss is on their own in this thing. Now I am not one for trying to get others in trouble for what someone else does so I hope OM gets there britches rubbed raw. RTR!