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« Reply #135 on: November 12, 2011, 10:36:17 PM »

Well, LSU has to play Arkansas and probably UGA.  OSU only has to play Oklahoma.  They both have a gimme game.  I would say LSU has a tougher road.  I really don't like being in a position where we need Choklahoma to win a game for us to be in.

Yeah, but LSU might NOT get to face UGA. If Arky were to somehow pull the upset, we may get into the SECC if we are ranked ahead of either of them. Then all we have to do is beat UGA and I don't think there is any way we get left out of the BCSNG.
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« Reply #136 on: November 12, 2011, 10:36:26 PM »

So, who has the better odds of losing - LSU or OK State?  What if they BOTH lose?   Huh?

I think OKs has better chance of losing to OSU. However, the way AR played today, they may give the Who's all they want.
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« Reply #137 on: November 12, 2011, 10:42:22 PM »

If Ark beats LSU in a close game, I don't know that LSU would drop more than 5 BCS spots below us.  That would put LSU in the SECCG.  If OK State wins out in that scenario, I think we could face them in the BCSNCG without going to Atlanta.  I would love this scenario, because I would love to see chaos in the BCS.
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« Reply #138 on: November 12, 2011, 10:43:59 PM »

Well, LSU has to play Arkansas and probably UGA.  OSU only has to play Oklahoma.  They both have a gimme game.  I would say LSU has a tougher road.  I really don't like being in a position where we need Choklahoma to win a game for us to be in.

Yeah, but LSU might NOT get to face UGA. If Arky were to somehow pull the upset, we may get into the SECC if we are ranked ahead of either of them. Then all we have to do is beat UGA and I don't think there is any way we get left out of the BCSNG.

Yes, but the question was who has the best chance to lose a game.  If LSU doesn't play UGA, then that means they lost a game.  The only way they don't lose a game is if they beat Arkansas and probably UGA (USCe still has a mathematical chance I think).
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« Reply #139 on: November 12, 2011, 10:47:10 PM »

If Ark beats LSU in a close game, I don't know that LSU would drop more than 5 BCS spots below us.  That would put LSU in the SECCG.  If OK State wins out in that scenario, I think we could face them in the BCSNCG without going to Atlanta.  I would love this scenario, because I would love to see chaos in the BCS.

Not so fast.  If Arkansas just moves ahead of LSU in the BCS, then we will go to Atlanta.  Even if they are both within 5 spots of us.  And Arkansas is #8 right now.  They will move up now that BSU and Stanford has lost.
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« Reply #140 on: November 12, 2011, 10:49:48 PM »

Well, LSU has to play Arkansas and probably UGA.  OSU only has to play Oklahoma.  They both have a gimme game.  I would say LSU has a tougher road.  I really don't like being in a position where we need Choklahoma to win a game for us to be in.

Yeah, but LSU might NOT get to face UGA. If Arky were to somehow pull the upset, we may get into the SECC if we are ranked ahead of either of them. Then all we have to do is beat UGA and I don't think there is any way we get left out of the BCSNG.

Yes, but the question was who has the best chance to lose a game.  If LSU doesn't play UGA, then that means they lost a game.  The only way they don't lose a game is if they beat Arkansas and probably UGA (USCe still has a mathematical chance I think).

Just to explain a little more, LSU has two competitive games left if they don't lose, where OSU only has 1.  The Big 12 won't have a championship game this year because they don't have 12 teams any more.  So I think LSU has the tougher road to finish undefeated.
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« Reply #141 on: November 12, 2011, 10:57:18 PM »

If Ark beats LSU in a close game, I don't know that LSU would drop more than 5 BCS spots below us.  That would put LSU in the SECCG.  If OK State wins out in that scenario, I think we could face them in the BCSNCG without going to Atlanta.  I would love this scenario, because I would love to see chaos in the BCS.

Not so fast.  If Arkansas just moves ahead of LSU in the BCS, then we will go to Atlanta.  Even if they are both within 5 spots of us.  And Arkansas is #8 right now.  They will move up now that BSU and Stanford has lost.
IMO, if LSU lost to Ark in a close one, LSU wouldn't drop below Ark in the BCS, but I can see where they could.  I think it would actually showcase the fallacy of the BCS system if LSU went to Atlanta, and we went to the BCSNCG.  It would give our team more time to rest without taking more chances of getting hurt in the extra game, also.  If LSU lost to Ark, though, I could certainly see where the voters would vote them low enough so that the scenario I described wouldn't happen.
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« Reply #142 on: November 12, 2011, 11:24:01 PM »

It is going to be interesting the rest of the way for sure.  I think Arkansas has a decent chance to beat LSU.  It isn't a foregone conclusion that LSU will win by any means.
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« Reply #143 on: November 12, 2011, 11:50:13 PM »

If Ark beats LSU in a close game, I don't know that LSU would drop more than 5 BCS spots below us.  That would put LSU in the SECCG.  If OK State wins out in that scenario, I think we could face them in the BCSNCG without going to Atlanta.  I would love this scenario, because I would love to see chaos in the BCS.

Not so fast.  If Arkansas just moves ahead of LSU in the BCS, then we will go to Atlanta.  Even if they are both within 5 spots of us.  And Arkansas is #8 right now.  They will move up now that BSU and Stanford has lost.
IMO, if LSU lost to Ark in a close one, LSU wouldn't drop below Ark in the BCS, but I can see where they could.  I think it would actually showcase the fallacy of the BCS system if LSU went to Atlanta, and we went to the BCSNCG.  It would give our team more time to rest without taking more chances of getting hurt in the extra game, also.  If LSU lost to Ark, though, I could certainly see where the voters would vote them low enough so that the scenario I described wouldn't happen.
Playing in the SECCG puts players at risk for injury--this is true. But I am not sure it isn't worse to sit idle for 5+weeks--from the IB until the NCG--without playing. The Texas Longhorns had to sit that long (2009) and it was problematic--to say the least.
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