"LSU suffers consequences of new celebration rule"

[Chechem]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT_TGuoLdmk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT_TGuoLdmk</a>

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[Coach Hank Crisp]

There was no taunting on the play by the LSU punter. SEC refs blow another call. I am glad it didn't change the outcome of a close game.

Refs need to throw flags only when there is a foul. Steve Shaw, the head ref for the SEC needs to explain this to his field refs.

[Chechem]

There was no taunting on the play by the LSU punter. SEC refs blow another call. I am glad it didn't change the outcome of a close game.

Refs need to throw flags only when there is a foul. Steve Shaw, the head ref for the SEC needs to explain this to his field refs.

WHAT?  If it wasn't taunting, it was showmanship.  Watch the video and you'll see that the punter gets hit in the endzone as a result.  Retaliation for the "taunt"?

[bamalum67]

it WAS a version of "taunting"..showmanship, etc. IMHO it has no place in college football, and I am glad they called it.  H*ll, if they don't shut this crap down, the players will be swinging form the goal posts, pulling cellphones out and texting, signing their sigs on footballs and tossing them to the crowds!

Gotta nip in the bud, Ange!!

Back in the day, the Viles tossed the ball into the stands after every TD...there were complaints, and that was shut down. 

And tell the truth..would anyone like to see that grandstanding street trash high-stepping into the end zone again?

[BAMAWV]

it WAS a version of "taunting"..showmanship, etc. IMHO it has no place in college football, and I am glad they called it.  H*ll, if they don't shut this crap down, the players will be swinging form the goal posts, pulling cellphones out and texting, signing their sigs on footballs and tossing them to the crowds!

Gotta nip in the bud, Ange!!

Back in the day, the Viles tossed the ball into the stands after every TD...there were complaints, and that was shut down. 

And tell the truth..would anyone like to see that grandstanding street trash high-stepping into the end zone again?

100% with you on this one. RTR

[bamalum67]

Thanks, WV..I can have some lucid moment once in awhile!

[XBAMA]

Watch the video

XOS strikes again ... video is gone

once he did the bennie the jet move and spread his wings it appeared he thought he might be
busted from they way he pull the wings back in suddenly .... sooooo ?  a question ?  
if he would have just "slipped" at the one foot line ? not made it into the E Z ?
no TD scored ... what would the penalty be then ?  
think these guys will put that in their memory bank for future reference ?

[Chechem]

Watch the video

XOS strikes again ... video is gone

once he did the bennie the jet move and spread his wings it appeared he thought he might be
busted from they way he pull the wings back in suddenly .... sooooo ?  a question ?  
if he would have just "slipped" at the one foot line ? not made it into the E Z ?
no TD scored ... what would the penalty be then ?  
think these guys will put that in their memory bank for future reference ?

Fixed.  Some other Cajun uploaded it.   

[XBAMA]

thanks Chech ...
what I find more interesting is that Florida had them on a 4th and 15  ....     

[Coach Hank Crisp]

RULE 9, Section 2, Article 1, By-law d. in the NCAA rulebook which states as a "Specifically prohibited act":

Any delayed, excessive, prolonged or choreographed act by which a player (or players) attempts to focus attention upon himself (or themselves).

Chech, I guess we just see it different. If it wasn't  LSU  and had been called on Bama would you been saying what a correct call it was?

Example if the rule had been in affect during the 2009 season:

And Mt Cody blocked the field goal and he got a dead ball foul for removing his helmet because to refs thought he was drawing attention to himself. Added time to the clock because game can't end on a defensive foul. Marked off 15 yards off against Bama and then Tennessee won the game after kicking a field goal. Then no NC because of a flag like that. I guess it would have been OK?

Yeah, that  is what I thought.

Also remember all the times Mark Ingram scored on a run and then saluted in the endzone. That is a foul now.

I like college football because the players show emotion. It means something to them, it is fun. I'm against taunting other teams, but once you let the camels nose get under the tent, then there you have it.

Should all the emotion be taken out of the college football game because a team of thugs: (Miami and a stupid ass coach like jimmy Johnson)? 

Then it would be like the NFL, just another game.

[XBAMA]

in the Cody block it was ruled no time on the clock = no plenty on the play ...
The foul for taking a helmet off is a live ball foul treated as a dead-ball foul
That is, if it happens on a play where time does not expire then the penalty is enforced on the following play.
since the clock ran out on that play, then there is no next play so there is no penalty to mark off


question ...
how will this new rule change this ? or will it ?

[Chechem]

Crisp, let me be clear.  I disagree with the rule.  I think rules like this can be counter to the joy of play.

But, as written, I think the LSU player violated the current rule.

[Coach Hank Crisp]

in the Cody block it was ruled no time on the clock = no plenty on the play ...
The foul for taking a helmet off is a live ball foul treated as a dead-ball foul
That is, if it happens on a play where time does not expire then the penalty is enforced on the following play.
since the clock ran out on that play, then there is no next play so there is no penalty to mark off


question ...
how will this new rule change this ? or will it ?

Doesn't matter if time expires. If it is a defensive foul, the game can have time put back on clock. Happened to Derrick Thomas in 1985 Kickoff Classic against tOSU. He committed  pass interference, refs replayed the down after regulation had ended.

Also if this rule had been in affect in 1992 one of the greatest plays in Alabama history would have been nulled. "George Teague high stepping into endzone in National Championship game".

[Tidewest]

I was surprised at the reaction or lack there of on the LSU bench. It was like no one really cared (players or coaches).

[rueben]

Cody's was a DEAD BALL FOUL, after the end of the game. For Derrick Thomas to commit P.I. the  ball would have still been alive, even after 00:00 on the clock.

Also the rule you quoted above is the excessive celebration rule, which is a dead ball foul.

The taunting rule is a live ball foul. Two totally separate rules.

If it happens before the the touchdown, it's taunting, ( Wing for  LSU) and nullifies the TD.

After the touch down, excessive celebration, and the touch down stands.  


Oh and CLM told the refs it was a good call.

And I do not like the rule, but feel the refs have to enforce the rule if its on the books. There are several rules here at the FD I don't care for, but have to enforce.

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