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Title: Other Saturday games
Post by: bama57 on November 17, 2018, 02:35:57 PM
One minute 32 seconds left in Ohio State it's down by 7


Title: Re: Other Saturday games
Post by: bama57 on November 17, 2018, 02:42:14 PM
The officials are keeping Ohio State in this game


Title: Re: Other Saturday games
Post by: Chechem on November 17, 2018, 03:30:47 PM
The officials are keeping Ohio State in this game

And the Maryland QB gave it away.


Title: Re: Other Saturday games
Post by: Catch Prothro on November 17, 2018, 04:14:18 PM
The officials are keeping Ohio State in this game

And the Maryland QB gave it away.
Receiver was open for 2 pt conversion -- WIN -- but bad pass.    :(






Title: Re: Other Saturday games
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on November 17, 2018, 05:06:26 PM
Michigan down 17-15 at halftime against Indiana.


Title: Re: Other Saturday games
Post by: Chechem on November 17, 2018, 05:40:28 PM
Michigan down 17-15 at halftime against Indiana.

That's as bad as our score!!   :lol2:


Title: Re: Other Saturday games
Post by: 2Stater on November 17, 2018, 10:46:31 PM
Ole Miss got royally screwed by the refs in OT. Vandy wins 36-29. Brown for Ole Miss caught a TD that was called a TD, but overturned on a call that even the announcers unanimously said was a catch and TD. Brown had the ball, his knee  hit the ground, and then lost it when his arm hit the ground. Total BS call. When you have replays to get it right, and they still don't, it completely makes the reviews useless.

 >:(


Title: Re: Other Saturday games
Post by: Chechem on November 18, 2018, 05:53:43 AM
Ole Miss got royally screwed by the refs in OT. Vandy wins 36-29. Brown for Ole Miss caught a TD that was called a TD, but overturned on a call that even the announcers unanimously said was a catch and TD. Brown had the ball, his knee  hit the ground, and then lost it when his arm hit the ground. Total BS call. When you have replays to get it right, and they still don't, it completely makes the reviews useless.

 >:(

Oh well, I picked Vandy. 
Maybe the refs knew, "Vandy always beats Ole Miss".  :lol2:


Title: Re: Other Saturday games
Post by: Catch Prothro on November 18, 2018, 08:50:48 AM
Ole Miss got royally screwed by the refs in OT. Vandy wins 36-29. Brown for Ole Miss caught a TD that was called a TD, but overturned on a call that even the announcers unanimously said was a catch and TD. Brown had the ball, his knee  hit the ground, and then lost it when his arm hit the ground. Total BS call. When you have replays to get it right, and they still don't, it completely makes the reviews useless.

 >:(
Yeah, I didn't understand that call.  He caught the ball, was down in the end zone (knee/buttocks), and then either ground or defender knocked it out of his arm. 


Title: Re: Other Saturday games
Post by: SUPERCOACH on November 18, 2018, 09:06:53 PM
Ole Miss got royally screwed by the refs in OT. Vandy wins 36-29. Brown for Ole Miss caught a TD that was called a TD, but overturned on a call that even the announcers unanimously said was a catch and TD. Brown had the ball, his knee  hit the ground, and then lost it when his arm hit the ground. Total BS call. When you have replays to get it right, and they still don't, it completely makes the reviews useless.

 >:(
Yeah, I didn't understand that call.  He caught the ball, was down in the end zone (knee/buttocks), and then either ground or defender knocked it out of his arm. 

I think he has to maintain possession through contact with the ground if he falls.  :dunno:


Title: Re: Other Saturday games
Post by: 2Stater on November 18, 2018, 09:25:57 PM
Ole Miss got royally screwed by the refs in OT. Vandy wins 36-29. Brown for Ole Miss caught a TD that was called a TD, but overturned on a call that even the announcers unanimously said was a catch and TD. Brown had the ball, his knee  hit the ground, and then lost it when his arm hit the ground. Total BS call. When you have replays to get it right, and they still don't, it completely makes the reviews useless.

 >:(
Yeah, I didn't understand that call.  He caught the ball, was down in the end zone (knee/buttocks), and then either ground or defender knocked it out of his arm. 

I think he has to maintain possession through contact with the ground if he falls.  :dunno:

When the knee and rump hit the ground, he maintained possession. That is all that is required. Anything that happens after that means nothing.


Title: Re: Other Saturday games
Post by: Catch Prothro on November 19, 2018, 09:46:09 AM
Ole Miss got royally screwed by the refs in OT. Vandy wins 36-29. Brown for Ole Miss caught a TD that was called a TD, but overturned on a call that even the announcers unanimously said was a catch and TD. Brown had the ball, his knee  hit the ground, and then lost it when his arm hit the ground. Total BS call. When you have replays to get it right, and they still don't, it completely makes the reviews useless.

 >:(
Yeah, I didn't understand that call.  He caught the ball, was down in the end zone (knee/buttocks), and then either ground or defender knocked it out of his arm. 

I think he has to maintain possession through contact with the ground if he falls.  :dunno:

When the knee and rump hit the ground, he maintained possession. That is all that is required. Anything that happens after that means nothing.
The reviewing refs applied the "possession through contact" rule very strictly here, to overturn the ruling on the field. 

The NFL amended their "catch" rule this year, to 2's common sense approach.  In the NFL, "a receiver must have control of the football with two feet or another body part on the ground in bounds."  So in the NFL, this would have been a catch.

The NCAA still uses the NFL's old, more complicated, and no-common-sense rule.  College football's catch rule is officially more confusing than the NFL's now.    https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/8/30/17481378/ncaa-catch-rule-nfl-differences

In college, a player catches a football when he, "Secures control of a live ball in flight before the ball touches the ground, and touches the ground in bounds with any part of his body, and then maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game, i.e., long enough to pitch or hand the ball, advance it, avoid or ward off an opponent, etc." 

Plus, there are three additional paragraphs that must be satisfied.      :stars:


Title: Re: Other Saturday games
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on November 19, 2018, 09:49:52 AM
Right.  I'd always heard that you have to make a "football move" before going down, otherwise possession must be maintained through the ground basically until loss of momentum.


Title: Re: Other Saturday games
Post by: 2Stater on November 19, 2018, 09:56:26 AM
Using 'common sense' and 'SEC refs' in the same sentence is an oxymoron.  :lol2:


Title: Re: Other Saturday games
Post by: Catch Prothro on November 19, 2018, 10:16:07 AM
Right.  I'd always heard that you have to make a "football move" before going down, otherwise possession must be maintained through the ground basically until loss of momentum.
The NFL did away with that rule this year because there were several instances in important games where players clearly "caught" the football near the goal line while falling down, landed on a knee, buttocks, elbow or whatever, and in the process of trying to reach the football over the goal line the ball came out when the player continued falling and his arm/hand subsequently hit the ground, even if the ball had already crossed the goal line.