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« on: November 23, 2015, 11:45:12 AM »

They are reporting on SportsCenter that LSU is buying out Les' contract. Press conference at 12:30 CST.

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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2015, 12:27:24 PM »

Wow!  They should have paid Saban to stay, and now he's the reason Les is less.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2015, 12:42:11 PM »

Wow!  They should have paid Saban to stay, and now he's the reason Les is less.

Saban, making another coach's a$$ quit.  Cool

FWIW, Les is deflecting all questions not pertaining to their game against TAMU.
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2015, 12:48:53 PM »

 Huh?
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2015, 12:55:39 PM »

who do they have in mind to replace him?
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2015, 01:18:55 PM »

He did  good job of not saying anything. I think they are going to clone CNS! RTR!
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2015, 02:05:37 PM »



LSU posters over at "Tiger Rant".
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2015, 02:10:11 PM »

A lot of talk that Jimbo might take the job (but I don't have any link to substantiate it).  If he does, it will be interesting to see how long it takes for FSU to be put on probation by the NCAA...
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2015, 02:18:54 PM »

A lot of talk that Jimbo might take the job (but I don't have any link to substantiate it).  If he does, it will be interesting to see how long it takes for FSU to be put on probation by the NCAA...



If he does it will be interesting to see how long it takes to run him out of the SEC as a head coach. RTR!
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2015, 02:21:21 PM »

A lot of talk that Jimbo might take the job (but I don't have any link to substantiate it).  If he does, it will be interesting to see how long it takes for FSU to be put on probation by the NCAA...

Glenn Guilbeau, featured columnist for "Tiger Rag", said on Finebaum that there is zero chance that Les will be staying at LSU.

Rumors are indeed, running rampant about Jimbo taking the job.
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2015, 02:27:56 PM »

The grass is always greener on the other sideline.  They are going to regret this.  I am going to laugh if they end up with a middle of the road coach.  This is not a good year for a coaching search.

Of course Les didn't mind which sideline he was on, he would still eat the grass.
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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2015, 02:55:03 PM »

The grass is always greener on the other sideline.  They are going to regret this.  I am going to laugh if they end up with a middle of the road coach.  This is not a good year for a coaching search.

Of course Les didn't mind which sideline he was on, he would still eat the grass.

That's what a handful of people at "Tiger Rant" are trying to convey to the masses. One of them posted this:

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I've come to grips with the idea that it is likely time for a change at LSU. However, finding a coach that can replace the success Miles has had will not be an easy task, and any who thinks otherwise is naïve.

Is there a coach out there that can improve upon what Miles has done? Sure, but the problem is that the vast majority of coaches, particularly the realistic candidates, are likely to underperform Miles.

Here is what history can tell us about how often the grass is greener on the other side:

Nebraska 2003: Fired Frank Solich (.766 W%) and hired Bill Callahan. AD said he would not "let Nebraska gravitate into mediocrity" with Solich. Callahan was fired after 4 seasons and a .551 W%.

Tennessee 2008: Forced Phillip Fulmer (.745 W%) to step down. The Volunteers have hired 3 coaches since then and sport a .482 W% since Fulmer was let go. Of note is the fact that Tennessee still sports a higher all-time winning percentage than LSU, but it did not insulate them from mediocrity.

Florida 2002: Steve Spurrier left after posting a .813 W% at Florida. It was a premier program in the country at the time. The Florida AD was turned down by Mike Shanahan and Bob Stoops. Ron Zook ultimately landed the job and proceeded to go 23-14 over three seasons at a school that took six years to lose 14 games before Zook got there.

Michigan 2007: Forced out Lloyd Carr (.753 W%) for his lackluster record against Ohio State (6-7). Hired hot-shot Rich Rodriguez and limped to a 15-22 record over the next 3 seasons. Followed up Rich Rod with Brady Hoke, who went 31-20 from 2011-2014 including 1-3 against Ohio State.

Alabama 1997: Even Alabama is not infallible. After Gene Stallings retired in 1996 with an .805 W%, it took Alabama 10 seasons, 4 coaches, a .553 W%, and a textbook scandal to get Nick Saban. That record includes their forfeited wins. Officially, Alabama had a losing record during that span and a .486 W%.

All top programs at the time, all failed miserably with their new coaches.

In fact, since 2000, I can only find 4 programs that have replaced coaches with .700+ W% and had even greater success with the newcomer. Furthermore, no program has ever forced out a coach with a winning percentage higher than .700 AND found a successor who generated better results.

TCU "replaced" Dennis Franchionne (.714 W%) with Gary Patterson in 2000 after Franchionne took the Alabama job. Patterson has led TCU to a .750 W% since then.

Boise State in 2000 replaced Dirk Koetter (.722 W%) with Dan Hawkins, who posted a .828 W% from 2001-2005. Boise found even greater success replacing Hawkins with Chris Petersen who produced a .885 W% from 2006-2013.

Miami in 2001 replaced Butch Davis (.718 W%) with Larry Coker, who went 60-15 from 2001-2006 for an .800 W%. Coker was fired in 2006 after posting consecutively worse seasons each year. Although Coker improved upon Butch Davis' winning percentage, I don't think anyone would consider Coker a success story.

And finally, LSU in 2005, who replaced Nick Saban and his .750 W% with Les Miles, who has posted an .775 W% since then.

Long story short, any rational observer can see that there should be significant concern over the ability to replace Miles with someone who will generate greater success.

The guy is spot on. They need to be very careful about what they wish for
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2015, 03:17:56 PM »

Yep, he nailed it.  Sometimes you just need to ride the horse you're on and hope for the best.
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2015, 03:20:21 PM »

I'm not impressed with Jimbo Fisher if he goes to LSU.


 
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2015, 03:20:35 PM »

Really the only area where Les needs to improve is QB development.  They should have been getting their QB ready in the first part of the season instead of just riding Fournette game in and game out against lesser opponents.  With even a modest threat of a passing game LSU would be tough.
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